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"Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
(July 16, 2018 at 12:51 am)Astreja Wrote:
(July 16, 2018 at 12:48 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Referring to homosexual relationships as a sin is regressive and bigoted and hate by default.  Nothing needs to be made up it's your position and it's vile.

Emphasis mine.  I cannot see such views as anything but hatred.

There is certainly those who are hateful and it should be condemned!  However that you cannot see anything else, is your own shallow short coming.   If you can’t think that some thing is wrong without hating the person, I think that is your issue, and you shouldn’t push it on others. As I said, it explains a lot. I’m starting to question if some here understand what love and hate even is?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
Quote:There is certainly those who are hateful and it should be condemned! However that you cannot see anything else, is your own shallow short coming. If you can’t think that some [b]thing[/] is wrong without hating the person, I think that is your issue, and you shouldn’t push it on others. As I said, it explains a lot. I’m starting to question if some here even understand what love and hate are?
Nope you can't if you call Homosexuality a sin or condemn Gay Relationships as immoral your ideology is hateful,regressive, and ideologically bigoted by default and you no business lecturing anyone else on what love is .It not her short comings it's your ideologies .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
(July 16, 2018 at 1:06 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:There is certainly those who are hateful and it should be condemned! However that you cannot see anything else, is your own shallow short coming. If you can’t think that some [b]thing[/] is wrong without hating the person, I think that is your issue, and you shouldn’t push it on others. As I said, it explains a lot. I’m starting to question if some here even understand what love and hate are?
Nope you can't if you call Homosexuality a sin or condemn Gay Relationships your ideology is hateful,regressive, and ideologically bigoted by default and you no business lecturing anyone else on what love is .It not her short comings it's yours douche bag.

What do you mean by bigoted?  Do you think this applies to yourself here?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
(July 16, 2018 at 1:01 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: There is certainly those who are hateful and it should be condemned!  However that you cannot see anything else, is your own shallow short coming.   If you can’t think that some thing is wrong without hating the person, I think that is your issue, and you shouldn’t push it on others. As I said, it explains a lot. I’m starting to question if some here understand what love and hate even is?

 I agree with you, I've wondered for quite a while if love and hate to some here are nothing more than words to play with.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
Quote: I agree with you, I've wondered for quite a while if love and hate to some here are nothing more than words to play with.
Only to you GC only to you
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
(July 16, 2018 at 1:07 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(July 16, 2018 at 1:01 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: There is certainly those who are hateful and it should be condemned!  However that you cannot see anything else, is your own shallow short coming.   If you can’t think that some thing is wrong without hating the person, I think that is your issue, and you shouldn’t push it on others. As I said, it explains a lot. I’m starting to question if some here understand what love and hate even is?

 I agree with you, I've wondered for quite a while if love and hate to some here are nothing more than words to play with.

GC

If'n you gotta dash some infants against the stones, why wouldn't you be loving the sinner and hating the Original Sin while doing it ??
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
Quote:What do you mean by bigoted? 
Your an ideological bigot there is nothing to explain that i have not 



Quote: Do you think this applies to yourself here?
Nope and your deflecting will fail
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
(July 16, 2018 at 1:07 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(July 16, 2018 at 1:01 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: There is certainly those who are hateful and it should be condemned!  However that you cannot see anything else, is your own shallow short coming.   If you can’t think that some thing is wrong without hating the person, I think that is your issue, and you shouldn’t push it on others. As I said, it explains a lot. I’m starting to question if some here understand what love and hate even is?

 I agree with you, I've wondered for quite a while if love and hate to some here are nothing more than words to play with.

GC

I find that some here, tend to re-define words, and then equivocate with them. If you re-define bigot to include saying that someone is wrong, then how are they not bigoted for doing the same. I would say that the intolerance and name calling comes much closer to being bigoted, then anything I have said.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
The moment any other person declares that my sexuality is wrong because of something in their beliefs, they are out of line. It doesn't matter what their belief actually is. It's an intrusion, plain and simple.
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RE: "Jesus would rather kill, not marry, gay people" - Franklin Graham
Quote:I find that some here, tend to re-define words,
Nope 


Quote: and then equivocate with them
Nope 


Quote:If you re-define bigot to include saying that someone is wrong,
No we have not 


Quote: then how are they not bigoted for doing the same. 
Opposing bigotry cannot be bigotry 



Quote:I would say that the intolerance and name calling comes much closer to being bigoted, then anything I have said.
Nope condemning your ideological bigotry is not bigotry this deflection game fails and of course you'll play the victim which also fails

(July 16, 2018 at 1:12 am)Astreja Wrote: The moment any other person declares that my sexuality is wrong because of something in their beliefs, they are out of line.  It doesn't matter what their belief actually is.  It's an intrusion, plain and simple.
And it is by default,Regressive and hateful as well as bigoted

(July 16, 2018 at 1:12 am)Astreja Wrote: The moment any other person declares that my sexuality is wrong because of something in their beliefs, they are out of line.  It doesn't matter what their belief actually is.  It's an intrusion, plain and simple.
And more importantly the free expression and relationships formed which key element of a person identity and self to call those wrong or immoral because they fit the dictates of somebodies ideology and then dare call it love is horrific .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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