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Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
#21
RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
Easy as pie.

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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 10:34 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Wow. A person has to be REALLY fucked up to shoot Canadians.

Boru

You know, I have Canadian relatives and one Canadian acquaintance. I don't understand the stereotype. They're all assholes. One of them is a bible-thumper with a hair across her ass.

On a more important note, that sucks. I hope everyone who survived recovers.
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 12:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Easy as pie.

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Sample size of 8 that excludes Russia for no reason. Useless graph.

Edit: actually the graph is worse than that, since it pretends to be just homocides , which is what the large print says, but in tiny print on the side says 'gun homocides'

Intentionally misleading propaganda.
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#24
RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 1:03 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 12:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Easy as pie.

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Sample size of 8 that excludes Russia for no reason. Useless graph.

Edit: actually the graph is worse than that, since it pretends to be just homocides , which is what the large print says, but in tiny print on the side says 'gun homocides'

Intentionally misleading propaganda.
Are you saying that guns don't make it easier to kill people?

The reason it misses out Russia is that it has no-data. Presumably Russia aren't very forth coming on that.



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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 12:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 11:56 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Funny thing is thought it's TO's location near America that makes it so large and prosperous.

All of Canada lives close to the US. Huddled up for warmth.
Actually more for trade

(July 23, 2018 at 12:25 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 12:24 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: Why won't they? If no one is allowed to own a gun, what will they shoot people with?

A large truck, apparently.

Which still isn't as good as a gun

(July 23, 2018 at 1:03 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 12:29 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Easy as pie.

[Image: homocides_g8_countries_640x360_wmain.jpg]

Sample size of 8 that excludes Russia for no reason. Useless graph.

Edit: actually the graph is worse than that, since it pretends to be just homocides , which is what the large print says, but in tiny print on the side says 'gun homocides'

Intentionally misleading propaganda.
1.Excluding Russia should be relevant why ? Do you imagine huge amounts of gun violence there?

2.How does that make it worse 

3. You short on a case here
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 1:16 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 1:03 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Sample size of 8 that excludes Russia for no reason. Useless graph.

Edit: actually the graph is worse than that, since it pretends to be just homocides , which is what the large print says, but in tiny print on the side says 'gun homocides'

Intentionally misleading propaganda.
Are you saying that guns don't make it easier to kill people?

The reason it misses out Russia is that it has no-data. Presumably Russia aren't very forth coming on that.

How would you conclude that I was saying guns don't mke it easier to kill people off of that? What I'm saying is exactly what I said, that chart is useless propghanda trying to make one stat look like another one.

Are you saying that it's not doing that?

(July 23, 2018 at 1:16 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 12:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: All of Canada lives close to the US. Huddled up for warmth.
Actually more for trade

(July 23, 2018 at 12:25 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: A large truck, apparently.

Which still isn't as good as a gun

(July 23, 2018 at 1:03 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Sample size of 8 that excludes Russia for no reason. Useless graph.

Edit: actually the graph is worse than that, since it pretends to be just homocides , which is what the large print says, but in tiny print on the side says 'gun homocides'

Intentionally misleading propaganda.
1.Excluding Russia should be relevant why ? Do you imagine huge amounts of gun violence there?

2.How does that make it worse 

3. You short on a case here

Russia has three times the US murder rate. But my point is that it's an intentionally misleading chart. Trying to confuse the gun violence stat with the homocide one. Which is the only relevant stat with f you are trying to make the case that control will lead to less homocides.

Which is the argument that I'm interested in. Unfortunately nobody seems to be even interested in that discussion, and instead just post a bunch of propaganda like that stupid chart.

(July 23, 2018 at 12:35 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 10:34 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Wow. A person has to be REALLY fucked up to shoot Canadians.

Boru

You know, I have Canadian relatives and one Canadian acquaintance. I don't understand the stereotype. They're all assholes. One of them is a bible-thumper with a hair across her ass.

On a more important note, that sucks. I hope everyone who survived recovers.

Two people in s not much of an accurate survey size. I've slept with more Canadians than that.
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#27
RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
As i said i don't think we should make this into a gun debate thread
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 1:55 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As i said i don't think we should make this into a gun debate thread

Isn't every mass shooting thread turned into one? I'm not big into that debate myself, mostly for the reasons I said. It's always propaganda (on both sides) and never an honest debate. I just felt the need to reply to the chart, which was particularly dishonest.
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#29
RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 1:55 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As i said i don't think we should make this into a gun debate thread

Why not this one?  It seems like any other one is.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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#30
RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 2:00 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 1:55 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As i said i don't think we should make this into a gun debate thread

Why not this one?  It seems like any other one is.
Simple that's the reason

(July 23, 2018 at 2:00 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 1:55 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As i said i don't think we should make this into a gun debate thread

Isn't every mass shooting thread turned into one? I'm not big into that debate myself, mostly for the reasons I said. It's always propaganda (on both sides) and never an honest debate. I just felt the need to reply to the chart, which was particularly dishonest.
Just because it tends to does not mean it needs to
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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