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Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto
(July 23, 2018 at 11:03 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 7:01 am)Brian37 Wrote: Do what America does, sell more without regards as to who ends up with them. It works so well for us here in the states that we have the most firearm violence for a rich 1rst world nation.

How many rich first world nation's are there?

(July 23, 2018 at 10:30 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Standard talking point duly noted.

I'll file this story in the very thin folder of other Canadian mass shootings and place it in the drawer with the fat, multi-volume file of similar cases in the U.S.

Canada doesn't have strict gun control anyway. I don't know where that myth got started. It's got more liberal gun laws and more guns than all of Europe except maybe Switzerland and Norway.  They have the same guns per capital as the US.

It's about context. For the most intransigent of 2nd Amendment boosters, anything not as extreme as the NRA's most extreme talking points is unacceptably restrictive. Subtleties like the differences between Canadian policy and policies in other, more restrictive countries are just facts. We can't let anything like subtlety or facts get in the way of a good talking point.
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 10:21 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So much for those strict Canadian gun control laws...

Total strawman, Neo.  No one ever asserted that strict gun control laws will completely eliminate mass shootings or gun deaths.
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto
(July 23, 2018 at 11:19 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 11:03 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: How many rich first world nation's are there?


Canada doesn't have strict gun control anyway. I don't know where that myth got started. It's got more liberal gun laws and more guns than all of Europe except maybe Switzerland and Norway.  They have the same guns per capital as the US.

It's about context. For the most intransigent of 2nd Amendment boosters, anything not as extreme as the NRA's most extreme talking points is unacceptably restrictive. Subtleties like the differences between Canadian policy and policies in other, more restrictive countries are just facts. We can't let anything like subtlety or facts get in the way of a good talking point.
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
Toronto is obviously too close to the US. You chaps should move it a safe distance away.
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(July 23, 2018 at 11:54 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Toronto is obviously too close to the US. You chaps should move it a safe distance away.
Funny thing is thought it's TO's location near America that makes it so large and prosperous.
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Yeah but you also pick up our bad habits..... like gunning people down for the fuck of it.  People like Chad think that is simply wonderful Americana.
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(July 23, 2018 at 10:27 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 10:21 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So much for those strict Canadian gun control laws...

I'm sorry how many mass shootings in the states this year? 

Id look to my own countries record before criticizing another country consider strict gun laws have prevent more instances like this .....Yeah so your talk out your ass 

But tell me were are all those good guys with guns ? Surely every mass shooting should be swarming with these good Samaritans.

I didn't want to make this a gun debate but you just couldn't resist could you ?

Maybe you could post statistics that compare the rate of gun crimes in Canada with that in the US?

(July 23, 2018 at 11:56 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 11:54 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Toronto is obviously too close to the US. You chaps should move it a safe distance away.
Funny thing is thought it's TO's location near America that makes it so large and prosperous.

"Near America but not America."

That should be their slogan.
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 11:56 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 11:54 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Toronto is obviously too close to the US. You chaps should move it a safe distance away.
Funny thing is thought it's TO's location near America that makes it so large and prosperous.

All of Canada lives close to the US. Huddled up for warmth.
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(July 23, 2018 at 11:32 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 10:21 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So much for those strict Canadian gun control laws...

Total strawman, Neo.  No one ever asserted that strict gun control laws will completely eliminate mass shootings or gun deaths.

Why won't they? If no one is allowed to own a gun, what will they shoot people with?
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
(July 23, 2018 at 12:24 pm)Alexmahone Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 11:32 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Total strawman, Neo.  No one ever asserted that strict gun control laws will completely eliminate mass shootings or gun deaths.

Why won't they? If no one is allowed to own a gun, what will they shoot people with?

A large truck, apparently.
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