Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?

[Rev. Rye]

Yeah, they also covered chapter 1, which is even more painful. I'm wondering if Benny has read the book. He may well be brilliant in other areas, I don't know. I've only sampled a small amount of his work so far. But he wrote this book, and it's an abomination. I've also watched him weasel his way out of answering theistic questions, and of course the "free speech" debacle. I find him disingenuous.

Huh. This one I didn't actually watch. I suppose the "Jordan Peterson doesn't understand friendship" is a more shocking one than "Jordan Peterson doesn't understand lobsters." I guess I'm more intrigued by cephalopodic life than crustacean. Also, I love it that he seems to have latched onto the lobster, of all creatures, as his metaphor for his preferred view of people. Maybe something that actually has a spine would undermine his preferred worldview. Or how different the bonobo, the closest nonhuman relative to homo sapiens, and therefore might be more relevant to humans, actually is.

[Amarok]

Yeah, they also covered chapter 1, which is even more painful. I'm wondering if Benny has read the book. He may well be brilliant in other areas, I don't know. I've only sampled a small amount of his work so far. But he wrote this book, and it's an abomination. I've also watched him weasel his way out of answering theistic questions, and of course the "free speech" debacle. I find him disingenuous.

Huh. This one I didn't actually watch. I suppose the "Jordan Peterson doesn't understand friendship" is a more shocking one than "Jordan Peterson doesn't understand lobsters." I guess I'm more intrigued by cephalopodic life than crustacean. Also, I love it that he seems to have latched onto the lobster, of all creatures, as his metaphor for his preferred view of people. Maybe something that actually has a spine would undermine his preferred worldview. Or how different the bonobo, the closest nonhuman relative to homo sapiens, and therefore might be more relevant to humans, actually is.

Well he's the lobster pope

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Oh, IDK.  Petersons a smart guy and a gifted speaker...but I think that he probably has had too many sips of the koolaid.  It's not an act, lol.  A real waste of talent.

I think he's the koolaid man

[vulcanlogician]

Yeah, they also covered chapter 1, which is even more painful. I'm wondering if Benny has read the book. He may well be brilliant in other areas, I don't know. I've only sampled a small amount of his work so far. But he wrote this book, and it's an abomination. I've also watched him weasel his way out of answering theistic questions, and of course the "free speech" debacle. I find him disingenuous.

Huh. This one I didn't actually watch. I suppose the "Jordan Peterson doesn't understand friendship" is a more shocking one than "Jordan Peterson doesn't understand lobsters." I guess I'm more intrigued by cephalopodic life than crustacean. Also, I love it that he seems to have latched onto the lobster, of all creatures, as his metaphor for his preferred view of people. Maybe something that actually has a spine would undermine his preferred worldview. Or how different the bonobo, the closest nonhuman relative to homo sapiens, and therefore might be more relevant to humans, actually is.

I don't think Peterson himself has "latched on" to the lobster as an exemplar for human social behavior. Rather it was his example in that interview which his opponents use to disparage his ideology.

[Amarok]

Not quite Vul

[robvalue]

I am now wondering if he started off a legit academic, and ended up stumbling across these opportunities to sell out and enter the pseudo market, to make way more money.

[Rev. Rye]

I am now wondering if he started off a legit academic, and ended up stumbling across these opportunities to sell out and enter the pseudo market, to make way more money.

He totally did.

As I said elsewhere, he's written over 93 peer-reviewed articles to his name, a little less than 4949 citations in 3713 documents, and an h-index of 39 (note: 20 is good, 40 is outstanding, and 60 is exceptional Admittedly, that's for 20 years and he's been publishing for almost 30 years, so maybe it's closer to good. Of course, 84% of Nobel winners have an H-score above 30, according to the source). In 1992, he did his thesis on Cognitive dysfunction and the inherited predisposition to alcoholism and it's been cited in 93 different papers.

That said, his new fans don't care about what he has to say about the Big Five personality traits, or his studies of peoples' relationships with reading, or creative achievement, or even the early stuff that focused on alcoholism, they just applaud him for telling them what they want to hear and giving them an air of mainstream respectability.

Really, he's the philosophy department version of Jerry Smith in this episode of Rick and Morty:





Except, in this case, he actually does have a little background in the subject at hand.

[Amarok]

Oh i won't deny his accomplishments when he forced to play by the rules of review .But outside that like many quacks he's a shyster.

[robvalue]

I am now wondering if he started off a legit academic, and ended up stumbling across these opportunities to sell out and enter the pseudo market, to make way more money.

He totally did.

As I said elsewhere, he's written over 93 peer-reviewed articles to his name, a little less than 4949 citations in 3713 documents, and an h-index of 39 (note: 20 is good, 40 is outstanding, and 60 is exceptional Admittedly, that's for 20 years and he's been publishing for almost 30 years, so maybe it's closer to good. Of course, 84% of Nobel winners have an H-score above 30, according to the source). In 1992, he did his thesis on Cognitive dysfunction and the inherited predisposition to alcoholism and it's been cited in 93 different papers.

That said, his new fans don't care about what he has to say about the Big Five personality traits, or his studies of peoples' relationships with reading, or creative achievement, or even the early stuff that focused on alcoholism, they just applaud him for telling them what they want to hear and giving them an air of mainstream respectability.

Really, he's the philosophy department version of Jerry Smith in this episode of Rick and Morty:





Except, in this case, he actually does have a little background in the subject at hand.

I see, thank you. This explains the polarizing opinions that are going on here. I can understand how a fan of his former work could find it unthinkable that he's written a book full of trash and has been acting like a jackass lately. I hope he finds the money was worth his intellectual soul.

(Haha, I love Rick and Morty!)

[bennyboy]

Oh, IDK.  Petersons a smart guy and a gifted speaker...but I think that he probably has had too many sips of the koolaid.  It's not an act, lol.  A real waste of talent.

As a Canadian, I want to see what happens when Peterson runs for Prime Minister.

I'd bet a million dollars on him to win if he did.

[Amarok]

As a Canadian, I want to see what happens when Peterson runs for Prime Minister.

Bonhomme has a better chance of being  Prime Minister then Pope garlic butter .

I'd bet a million dollars on him to win if he did.

Only if the black death killed 99.9 percent of the Canadian population and the 1% left all got lobotomies .