In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Which god?

[The Grand Nudger]

Fewer than 25% believe religion is a force for good. Over 50% believe atheism a force for good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFvon0Fr1L4

duh! 
Morality= man's version of right

Righteousness= God's version of right. we have an obligation to God not man's idea of what is right and wrong.

You might, I don't.  I don't work for your boss.

[downbeatplumb]

Fewer than 25% believe religion is a force for good. Over 50% believe atheism a force for good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFvon0Fr1L4

duh! 
Morality= man's version of right

Righteousness= God's version of right. we have an obligation to God not man's idea of what is right and wrong.

How does the god character do the righteousness thing?

[I_am_not_mafia]

Drich saw Huggy's attempts at inanity and said

"Hold my beer"

[Anomalocaris]

Drich saw Huggy's attempts at inanity and said

"Hold my beer"

Drich saw huggy was sadly failing to meet drich’s standard of dense and dumb, and was kind enough to show huggy how it is done.

[Drich]

duh! 
Morality= man's version of right

Righteousness= God's version of right. we have an obligation to God not man's idea of what is right and wrong.

How does the god character do the righteousness thing?

Well for one morality is man's standard of what degree he is willing to live with sin.

1) God says don't murder, especially don't harm children, there is a special place in hell for those who hurt babies and children.
2) Man says it is ok to murder babies IF and only if a doctor does it and IF the baby is refer to in it's latin name (Fetus=latin for baby)

1) God says Family first then set fourth a standard defining family, then commands no sex outside this frame work.
2) man says no need for family then asks why all the crime in communities where family is greatly mocked or trivialized, man say sex anytime any where is ok, then asks where did self discipline and the attributes that center around self control went.

1)God says I will send my son to die on your behalf (as you a sinner owe me a death) so you do not have to live by a moral code to be judge righteously.
2) Man create his own moral code to easily be found on the 'good side' and God on the bad side so he can ... Beat god using a standard God sent his son to abolish?!?!

Which is what confuses me the most about you all. Life under God is freedom from the law freedom from an idea of right and wrong because when applied honestly no one can be found right, so God destroyed the standard for ALL WHO BELIEVE. for those who don't and insist on living be their own standard... will be judged by the very standard you pretend to live by and will be found wanting/a hypocrite by your own morality.

Why live by a standard or law or set of moral laws when God offers you freedom from it? meaning you are not judged by your action to determine if you are worthy of heaven or not.

I know most of you do not understand that is what christianity out of the bible is all about. Religious christianity is just another form of judaism, but in truth if you were to read and make an effort to understand, freedom from the law is what Christ offers..

So of course you will be found more moral that a group of christians!

It is because you do not understand what this race/life is about!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNEBTOaEDI0

Incae you all don't know I'm the fat guy.. always the fat guy.

Now someone hand me back my beer please

[downbeatplumb]

How does the god character do the righteousness thing?

Well for one morality is man's standard of what degree he is willing to live with sin.

1) God says don't murder, especially don't harm children, there is a special place in hell for those who hurt babies and children.
2) Man says it is ok to murder babies IF and only if a doctor does it and IF the baby is refer to in it's latin name (Fetus=latin for baby)

Wow what a judgemental prick you appear to be. The right to choice is the to let a woman choose you instantly picked the evil one. Where you get to decide the fate of women just because it makes you feel superior.

1) God says Family first then set fourth a standard defining family, then commands no sex outside this frame work.

2) man says no need for family then asks why all the crime in communities where family is greatly mocked or trivialized, man say sex anytime any where is ok, then asks where did self discipline and the attributes that center around self control went.

Too much stupid here to properly comment so just no to all of that.

1)God says I will send my son to die on your behalf (as you a sinner owe me a death) so you do not have to live by a moral code to be judge righteously.

What does that even mean. Does that make any sense to you? It doesn't to me.
And anyway wasn't he supposed to rise three days later? At  most he lost a weekend for your sins whatever that means.

2) Man create his own moral code to easily be found on the 'good side' and God on the bad side so he can ... Beat god using a standard God sent his son to abolish?!?!

Well as I don't think that anything other than empathy and societies set morals these just appear to be empty words that mean nanda.

Which is what confuses me the most about you all. Life under God is freedom from the law freedom from an idea of right and wrong because when applied honestly no one can be found right, so God destroyed the standard for ALL WHO BELIEVE. for those who don't and insist on living be their own standard... will be judged by the very standard you pretend to live by and will be found wanting/a hypocrite by your own morality.

What?

Why live by a standard or law or set of moral laws when God offers you freedom from it? meaning you are not judged by your action to determine if you are worthy of heaven or not.

Again, what?

I know most of you do not understand that is what christianity out of the bible is all about. Religious christianity is just another form of judaism, but in truth if you were to read and make an effort to understand, freedom from the law is what Christ offers..

You are starting to scare me now.

Are you saying that all them gun totting hillbillies think that because they believe in jesus they are above the rules of our pleasant society. I must say that would explain a lot of America!

So of course you will be found more moral that a group of christians!

It isn't hard to be better than US Christians. British Christians seem quite nice. But then we did get rid of all our puritanical arseholes to America in the 1600s.

It is because you do not understand what this race/life is about!

Whatever dude.

[Drich]

Wow what a judgemental prick you appear to be. The right to choice is the to let a woman choose you instantly picked the evil one. Where you get to decide the fate of women just because it makes you feel superior.








Too much stupid here to properly comment so just no to all of that.


What does that even mean. Does that make any sense to you? It doesn't to me.
And anyway wasn't he supposed to rise three days later? At  most he lost a weekend for your sins whatever that means.


Well as I don't think that anything other than empathy and societies set morals these just appear to be empty words that mean nanda.



What?


Again, what?



You are starting to scare me now.

Are you saying that all them gun totting hillbillies think that because they believe in jesus they are above the rules of our pleasant society. I must say that would explain a lot of America!


It isn't hard to be better than US Christians. British Christians seem quite nice. But then we did get rid of all our puritanical arseholes to America in the 1600s.


Whatever dude.

So... "witty" (i guess by uk standards) banter. that is all you got? or and calling me self righteous.. maybe you should have called me a racist and a misogynist too.. because truthfully you all you those terms so much they mean nothing. You wanted to know the difference between morality and righteousness. I demonstrated it by showing you yours is a works based effort of being honorable. And God's is a gift free from said works. meaning all of those things you find honorable but miserably fail to live up to... you know like the ability to not murder a baby or the ability not to control yourself sexually, to you/under your way of law/thinking would be wrong... but to God none of that matters. just so long as in your heart you do not want this sin. you hate the reason you use to justify killing your kid, you hate the reason that you are letting some dude stuff you like a thanksgiving turkey. before God the redemed are just as good as if they were to if they could live by the law!

Do you get it? God is not looking to the law to define who is righteous. that is what you 'good people do.' God's righteousness is based on those who simply don't want to sin anymore and seek forgiveness rather than live a lie, where if you have a good excuse even murder is bushed under the rug as choice. But to god murder becomes forgiven sin, no greater no less than anyone elese. You are the ones who put a grade on sin, you are the ones wh think because you do good things you are better and if you do what other see as bad you are worse.. 

UnderGod we are the same. either free or in bondage to the law. if we have been forgiven the law does not apply. if we have yet to see forgiveness then by the law we are judged.

[Angrboda]

(Fetus=latin for baby)

No, it is not, you ignorant twat.

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but to God none of that matters. just so long as in your heart you do not want this sin.

Yet more ignorance.

The Lord himself affirms: ‘He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.’ (Mk 16:16)

[I_am_not_mafia]

meaning all of those things you find honorable but miserably fail to live up to... you know like the ability to not murder a baby or the ability not to control yourself sexually

Wow, you're a fucking psycho and the only thing stopping you is religion.

The ability not to murder a baby?

Remember when I kept mentioning to you that magical thing that you lack ... 'empathy' ?

That's what stops normal people from doing these things.