A question about the crew and passengers on the Ark.

[Angrboda]

Gosh. Someone misrepresenting things. How dare they! 'Scum of the earth' as you say.

[Jehanne]

I have not moved anything. I have taught this here for 6 or 7 years. it is not my fault you do not understand what you are arguing when you pick up and start typing. Or you just wrongly assume everyone has the same broken understanding of the bible as you do.

Common sense people If I had the same broken understand of the bible as you did would I then not come to the same broken conclusions? I have figured something out you have not, or at least I have found understanding you lack. Christian are no different than anyone else, other than the fact they have reached out to God and been lifted up by Him. You can't do that if your understanding of God tells you to trade good deeds for favors/answer prayers. that would be a broken view of God. one that leads to silence and ultimately up ended faith! I say that to say that is why my understand is and has been different of genesis than your own.

I don't believe in any of it, and you've given me no reason to believe in any of it.  It's like trying to convince me that the religion of the Aztecs is the one true religion.

I used to believe in it, while growing-up way into my adulthood, but those are wasted years of my life, which I wish that I could have back to live over.

[Hammok Man]

Noah’s ark and the stories it is derived from (epic of Gilgamesh, and older Sumerian story) are just a myth, but the myth may have some base in real world events. There is some evidence of asteroid strikes around 10,000 BC that hit the ice Canadian ice sheets. Cubic miles of ice were instantly liquified, causing the major erosion in the US pacific north west.

We know sea levels were approximately 400 ft lower dur8ng the last ice age. If the sea levels made a very sudden jump (100’ perhaps more in a few days) and coastal regions were further undated with tsunami from ocean impacts. I could easily see how hunter gather groups living on coastal plains would think the entire world was being flooded, as they continually moved to higher ground while the sea levels rose for months or years to the present levels.

I do not think it outside the realm of impossibly for someone to have loaded his fam8ly and a few herd animals on to a hastily built raft to escape some shrinking island in the flooding Tigris or Euphrates river valley. Then the Ark myth grows from that.

[Minimalist]

What if there were more than two people in the seven day creation?

What if you let up on the clutch so you could engage your brain before you started running you mouth?

[Jehanne]

Noah’s ark and the stories it is derived from (epic of Gilgamesh, and older Sumerian story) are just a myth, but the myth may have some base in real world events.  There is some evidence of asteroid strikes around 10,000 BC that hit the ice Canadian ice sheets.  Cubic miles of ice were instantly liquified, causing the major erosion in the US pacific north west.  

We know sea levels were approximately 400 ft lower dur8ng the last ice age.  If the sea levels made a very sudden jump (100’ perhaps more in a few days) and coastal regions were further undated with tsunami from ocean impacts.  I could easily see how hunter gather groups living on coastal plains would think the entire world was being flooded, as they continually moved to higher ground while the sea levels rose for months or years to the present levels.

I do not think it outside the realm of impossibly for someone to have loaded his fam8ly and a few herd animals on to a hastily built raft to escape some shrinking island in the flooding Tigris or Euphrates river valley. Then the Ark myth grows from that.

Your explanation, while completely plausible, is not necessary.  The Tigers and Euphrates Rivers would sometimes flood, and people who lived at that time who saw the entire World as being flat would have seen a major flood as being a global one.

[Minimalist]

Gilgamesh, and the earlier Mesopotamian myths of Ziusudra and Atrahasis, dealt with river flooding on the Tigris/Euphrates.  That wasn't good enough for the fucking jews who came much later.

And of course xtians have delusions of grandeur.

[Jehanne]

For those who lived on a flat disc, the original stories could have gotten embellished and re-embellished over the centuries in some hero motif mixed in with the local deity.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

There's no reason to believe a ten thousand year old event impacted anyone in historic times.

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[vorlon13]

Gilgamesh, and the earlier Mesopotamian myths of Ziusudra and Atrahasis, dealt with river flooding on the Tigris/Euphrates.  That wasn't good enough for the fucking jews who came much later.

And of course xtians have delusions of grandeur.

When they are not buggering children or shielding the perpetrators...….