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3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
September 13, 2018 at 12:19 am (This post was last modified: September 13, 2018 at 12:19 am by Bob Kelso.)
(September 12, 2018 at 8:22 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: 3-Show him that Sunni Islam and Shiite Islam are perfect religions for any dictator.

The same could be said of Islam in general (and any Abrahamic religion for that matter) and beyond.

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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
September 13, 2018 at 2:26 am (This post was last modified: September 13, 2018 at 2:34 am by WinterHold.)
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
September 13, 2018 at 7:42 am (This post was last modified: September 13, 2018 at 7:49 am by Angrboda.)
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
September 13, 2018 at 7:46 am (This post was last modified: September 13, 2018 at 7:47 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 13, 2018 at 2:26 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(September 12, 2018 at 11:20 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Is the quran the word of god, or the narrations that might be correct or false?

Islam strongly says that the Quran is the revelation of God on Mohammed -Peace be Upon Him-. This is the core leap of faith and the first one actually for 100% of Muslims.
"Magic book says...." 

Moving forward, hadith are verified by the same process that the quran is.  Either that process is credible..or it isn't.  If the ibn-chain is sufficient to certify magic book, then it's sufficient for hadith.  If it's not sufficient to certify hadith....why would it be sufficient in the case of magic book?
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
September 13, 2018 at 7:51 am
Yes, Peace be upon Muhammed! 

'bout time, the fucking warmonger!
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
September 13, 2018 at 7:58 am
(September 13, 2018 at 7:46 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(September 13, 2018 at 2:26 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

Islam strongly says that the Quran is the revelation of God on Mohammed -Peace be Upon Him-. This is the core leap of faith and the first one actually for 100% of Muslims.
"Magic book says...." 

Moving forward, hadith are verified by the same process that the quran is.  Either that process is credible..or it isn't.  If the ibn-chain is sufficient to certify magic book, then it's sufficient for hadith.  If it's not sufficient to certify hadith....why would it be sufficient in the case of magic book?

Indeed. There is plenty of evidence that the Quran and its transmission isn't reliable, so faulting the hadith on that account is simple hypocrisy.

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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
September 13, 2018 at 8:00 am (This post was last modified: September 13, 2018 at 8:00 am by The Grand Nudger.)
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
September 13, 2018 at 8:46 am
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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
September 13, 2018 at 9:44 am
(September 13, 2018 at 2:26 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
Quote:https://quran.com/2/256

Sura 2, The Quran:

Sahih International

(256) There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

First thought that pops into my mind: how to be a dictator, when your God officially tells you that dictatorship and compulsion are forbidden; dictated in Sura 2 Verse 256 ??

As pointed out in your last thread on the religion of peace, that is a bunch of crap. But keep telling the lie. Maybe if you repeat it often enough someone will believe it.
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
September 13, 2018 at 1:27 pm (This post was last modified: September 13, 2018 at 1:29 pm by Mystic.)
The Quran advises to ask the family of the reminder when you don't know so please don't follow this ignorant person to understand Quran but rely on the chosen leaders by God who know how to manifest it's wonders, belief in Messengers is emphasized a long side believing in his books, because books were never enough, you need the leaders who Guide by God's command and establish justice by the truth to help on the journey, that, and the books of God are all about revealing their stations as proofs of God and the means to God and about establishing their authority. The Torah, Gospels and Quran are united on that.
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