AP: Obama's nose is growing

[Aroura]

That's a curious phrase. If you say someone is butt hurt, aren't you basically admitting to some form of anal rape? Metaphorically spreaking. You're saying you metaphorically raped someone and then are teasing them about their injuries.

At any rate, as I said I can admit Obamas lies. The thing that hurts isn't that, though I'm inspired you lack the ability to see deeper than surface politics. It's the lack of impartiality about Trumps level of reality distorting lies. It's a fairly constant assault from my own government, this war on truth they are waging, and it really bothers me to see what I assume is a normal citizen gleefully engaging in the same gross behaviors.

I mean, it's legit upsetting to me. Are you upset about the children ripped from their families AM? I know you won't answer except with another insult because that's how your discourse what's goes. But I'd like to know, do you care about them, or the ocean of plastic, or the future of your great grandkids? Because I do. And it really bothers me that so many other people only seem to care they they got theirs. Screw everyone else attitude.

So I need to step out of the thread because really, if you find joy in my pain at seeing the pain of other humans, there's nothing for me here. Just another egomaniac jerking off to the misery of others while denying reality. I've seen enough of that to last me a lifetime.

[Amarok]

TRUMP, citing concerns of a “perjury trap”: “So if I say something and he (former FBI director James Comey) says something, and it’s my word against his, and he’s best friends with Mueller, so Mueller might say: ‘Well, I believe Comey,’ and even if I’m telling the truth, that makes me a liar. That’s no good.” — interview with Reuters published Aug. 20.
RUDY GIULIANI, TRUMP’S ATTORNEY: “I am not going to be rushed into having him testify so that he gets trapped into perjury.” — remarks Aug. 19 on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
THE FACTS: They’re making a disingenuous claim. Both Trump and his lawyers point to a threat of perjury charges, even as Giuliani has maintained that Mueller’s team indicated the special counsel had ruled out the possibility of indicting Trump.

TRUMP: “You know, they kept saying I had a problem with the women’s vote; I get 52 percent in the election.” — remarks Friday in Columbus, Ohio.
THE FACTS: No. Trump appears to be citing a figure pertaining to white women only.
Among all women, about 54 percent nationally voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton in 2016, according to exit polls, compared with Trump’s 41 percent.

TRUMP: “Michael Cohen plead guilty to two counts of campaign finance violations that are not a crime.” — tweet Wednesday.

THE FACTS: False. The campaign finance violations are crimes. While it’s not a crime to pay someone to keep quiet, the Justice Department says the hush money payments arranged by Cohen to conceal allegations of Trump’s extramarital affairs were actually unreported campaign contributions meant to influence the outcome of the election.

TRUMP: “A large number of counts, ten, could not even be decided in the Paul Manafort case. Witch Hunt!” — tweet Wednesday.

THE FACTS: The jury’s lack of consensus on 10 of 18 counts hardly makes Manafort an innocent man, or supports the notion that Mueller’s investigation is a “witch hunt.” Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, was found guilty on eight counts, including filing false tax returns and two bank fraud charges that will almost certainly guarantee years of prison for him.

TRUMP: “Bill DeBlasio, the high taxing Mayor of NYC, just stole my campaign slogan: PROMISES MADE PROMISES KEPT! That’s not at all nice. No imagination!” — tweet Tuesday.
TRUMP: “‘Promises Made, Promises Kept.’ They’re copying it now, the Democrats.” — West Virginia rally Tuesday.
THE FACTS: Trump is a slogan copycat himself. His slogan about promises made and kept was used by President Barack Obama in his 2012 campaign. Republican John Engler used it when he ran for re-election as Michigan governor in 1994.
“Make America Great Again” was used by President Ronald Reagan, preceded by “Let’s.”

TRUMP: “I want clean air. I want crystal clean water. And we’ve got it. We’ve got the cleanest country in the planet right now. There’s nobody cleaner than us.” — West Virginia rally Tuesday.

THE FACTS: The United States does not have the cleanest air on Earth. Not even close.

TRUMP: “It is the biggest tax cut in the history of our country and you people are benefiting by it.” — West Virginia rally Tuesday.
THE FACTS: This biggest-ever claim has become one of the president’s favorite fabrications.
His tax cuts are nowhere close to the biggest in U.S. history.

TRUMP, praising Immigration and Customs Enforcement: “To hear some of the stories going on with MS-13, you wouldn’t believe it. And they’re doing an incredible job. They’re actually liberating towns.” — remarks Aug. 20.
TRUMP: “A vote for any Democrat in November is a vote to eliminate immigration enforcement, throw open our borders and set loose vicious predators and violent criminals. They’ll be all over our communities. They will be preying on our communities.” — West Virginia rally Tuesday.
THE FACTS: Trump suggests that weak border enforcement is contributing to crime committed by MS-13. But the gang actually has many U.S.-born members at this point — people who by virtue of U.S. citizenship can’t be denied entry based on their nationality, or deported. The government has not said recently how many members it thinks are citizens and immigrants. In notable raids on MS-13 in 2015 and 2016, most of the people caught were found to be U.S. citizens.

TRUMP: “We have MS-13 on the run. They’ve poured in here with Obama, we have them on the run.” — remarks Tuesday.

THE FACTS: There’s no evidence that MS-13 gangs “poured in” during the Obama administration. The Justice Department has said there are about 10,000 MS-13 members in the U.S., the same number as more than a decade ago.

TRUMP: “The new platform of the Democrat Party is to abolish ICE.” — remarks Friday in Columbus, Ohio.
TRUMP: “Leading members of the Democrat Party have even launched a campaign to abolish ICE. In other words, they want to abolish America’s borders.” — remarks Aug. 20.
THE FACTS: While some Democrats in the House and Senate have raised the prospect of eliminating Immigration and Customs Enforcement, no top Democrats in the House or Senate have called for such a move. Those Democrats who have expressed openness to eliminating ICE have said they would not abandon border enforcement, which is largely carried out by Customs and Border Protection.

Holy shit guys, and this is only SOME of the stuff going back just to August 27th. Just 2 weeks of lies upon lies.  Not even many half truths in here, this is just pages of straight up lies. 

Trump lies from AP news through Aug 27th

Huh.  Who'd have thought that AM would bring up a handful of mild dishonesties by Obama from a news organization while ignoring the literal pages and pages of lies told by Trump?  Who'd have thunk it?  Really, what an effing shocker!

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I can keep going.  IS this my thread now?  We'll see tomorrow.  I didn't actually realize how many lies there were from Trump every day!! IT is a mountain of bullshit!

Tomorrow I'll post some more Trump Fact checks from AP. Sound good?  This thread should live on. Or I might create a new thread.  I don't want to...derail...this one. 

Somebody who has an agenda would ignore it

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Remember Beta Fail supports a man so divorced from reality he actually said this 

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Kids, if we get into a pissing contest over which politicians tell lies, I'm going to miss my juice box and nap time.

Boru

[Minimalist]

Go listen to the WLB you dumb fucking asshole.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact...689184548d

President Trump has made 4,229 false or misleading claims in 558 days

Those don't count because he's a shithead like you, A/M, right?

[RoadRunner79]

How quickly they shift from charges of whataboutism (concerning a current event I might add).   To committing the thing themselves.

[Joods]

Get off your high horse. I posted an article from a mainstream source, nothing more. You came in accusing me of dodging issues before I put up an emoji.

You try to dish it out, but you certainly can't take it. Then the classic liberal you're a meanie  charge and armchair psychology. Very textbook.

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But if you'd like me to have empathy...is there some major issue in your life right now that I'm not aware of and could help me understand you better? Because your reaction isn't that of a rational adult.

Look who's arse is hurtin now. 

Aroura posts facts. You post conjecture and lies. Get over yourself. You ain't that special.

[Anomalocaris]

How quickly they shift from charges of whataboutism (concerning a current event I might add).   To committing the thing themselves.

Ah yes. Obama is the current president. Good. I am glad you think so.

[Amarok]

How quickly they shift from charges of whataboutism (concerning a current event I might add).   To committing the thing themselves.

So Obama's president then thank goodness oh wait no he's not

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Get off your high horse. I posted an article from a mainstream source, nothing more. You came in accusing me of dodging issues before I put up an emoji.

You try to dish it out, but you certainly can't take it. Then the classic liberal you're a meanie  charge and armchair psychology. Very textbook.

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But if you'd like me to have empathy...is there some major issue in your life right now that I'm not aware of and could help me understand you better? Because your reaction isn't that of a rational adult.

Look who's arse is hurtin now. 

Aroura posts facts. You post conjecture and lies. Get over yourself. You ain't that special.

Does he post anything but ?

[Aegon]

How quickly they shift from charges of whataboutism (concerning a current event I might add).   To committing the thing themselves.

LOL if we penalized whataboutism there would be no political discussion here. @ libs and conservatives alike.

[Joods]

How quickly they shift from charges of whataboutism (concerning a current event I might add).   To committing the thing themselves.

So Obama's president then thank goodness oh wait no he's not

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Look who's arse is hurtin now. 

Aroura posts facts. You post conjecture and lies. Get over yourself. You ain't that special.

Does he post anything but ?

Well there is the religious crap he spews.