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In support of Dr. Ford
#11
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
I should also point out that I am absolutely not dissing the gofundme donors. I admire anyone willing to to support Dr. Ford in any way. She must be accruing some legal fees, and it's really great that people are willing to help her out financially, because that's really important and absolutely shows their support and that they care, and gives her something tangible and helpful.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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#12
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
(October 3, 2018 at 8:31 am)Mathilda Wrote: Alpha, you seem to be like Drich with an inability to have empathy for other people.

That's a bit of an unwarranted extrapolation form the information you have, don'tcha think?

(October 3, 2018 at 7:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 3, 2018 at 4:33 am)alpha male Wrote: Gofundmes in her name have raised $700,000. She doesn't really need the postcard, but if it makes you feel good, go for it.

A victim of sexual assault doesn't need to know that people support her?  What kind of a monster are you?

Boru

The kind that gets suspicious when people get paid for opposing Trump.
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#13
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
(October 3, 2018 at 8:46 am)alpha male Wrote:
(October 3, 2018 at 8:31 am)Mathilda Wrote: Alpha, you seem to be like Drich with an inability to have empathy for other people.

That's a bit of an unwarranted extrapolation form the information you have, don'tcha think?

You wrote a post that lacked any basic empathy for what someone was going through. Let's look at it again:

(October 3, 2018 at 4:33 am)alpha male Wrote: Gofundmes in her name have raised $700,000.

So you're making the implicit accusation that she is doing this for the money. Presumably because that's the only reason you can imagine someone doing this. Otherwise why mention it?

(October 3, 2018 at 4:33 am)alpha male Wrote: She doesn't really need the postcard

This suggests that you don't understand what benefit someone could gain from receiving moral support from other human beings.


(October 3, 2018 at 4:33 am)alpha male Wrote: but if it makes you feel good, go for it.

And this suggests that you have no understanding why someone would give such moral support.

So no, I don't think it's an unwarranted extrapolation. You wrote a post that someone with empathy would not write.

(October 3, 2018 at 8:46 am)alpha male Wrote:
(October 3, 2018 at 7:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: A victim of sexual assault doesn't need to know that people support her?  What kind of a monster are you?

The kind that gets suspicious when people get paid for opposing Trump.

This response also suggests that you have no ability to appreciate or understand how traumatic sexual assault is for someone.
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#14
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
(October 3, 2018 at 8:54 am)Mathilda Wrote: You wrote a post that lacked any basic empathy for what someone was going through.

Agreed. However, it's unwarranted to extrapolate from the fact that I don't have empathy for a particular person that I don't have the ability to feel empathy at all.

Quote:This response also suggests that you have no ability to appreciate or understand how traumatic sexual assault is for someone.

My wife feels the same way. She was assaulted at about the same age that Ford claims she was assaulted.
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#15
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
(October 3, 2018 at 8:31 am)Mathilda Wrote: Alpha, you seem to be like Drich with an inability to have empathy for other people.

^^^^^^^^ So much this.

This is not politics as normal, not one bit. This is not a man sticking up for anyone, using them sure, but not defending anything or anybody but himself. 

If Kellyanne says she was assaulted, I'D BELIEVE HER. But I would not mock her on that issue as if it were a sport. There is lots not to like her for, but I would never accuse her of lying about something like being assaulted.
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#16
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
(October 3, 2018 at 8:46 am)alpha male Wrote:
(October 3, 2018 at 8:31 am)Mathilda Wrote: Alpha, you seem to be like Drich with an inability to have empathy for other people.

That's a bit of an unwarranted extrapolation form the information you have, don'tcha think?

(October 3, 2018 at 7:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: A victim of sexual assault doesn't need to know that people support her?  What kind of a monster are you?

Boru

The kind that gets suspicious when people get paid for opposing Trump.

If she declines to accept the 700k, would you send her a post card?

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#17
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
(October 3, 2018 at 9:01 am)alpha male Wrote:
(October 3, 2018 at 8:54 am)Mathilda Wrote: You wrote a post that lacked any basic empathy for what someone was going through.

Agreed. However, it's unwarranted to extrapolate from the fact that I don't have empathy for a particular person that I don't have the ability to feel empathy at all.

I don't actually ever remember reading a post from you that showed any empathy. I am happy to be proved wrong about this.


(October 3, 2018 at 9:01 am)alpha male Wrote:
(October 3, 2018 at 8:54 am)Mathilda Wrote: This response also suggests that you have no ability to appreciate or understand how traumatic sexual assault is for someone.

My wife feels the same way. She was assaulted at about the same age that Ford claims she was assaulted.

She's not here though so I only have your perception and interpretation to go on. Feels the same way about what for example?

For all I know, she may lack empathy for other people as well.
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#18
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
(October 3, 2018 at 9:30 am)Mathilda Wrote: I don't actually ever remember reading a post from you that showed any empathy.

There have been a few, but even if there weren't, extrapolating from behavior on an internet forum is unwarranted.

Quote:I am happy to be proved wrong about this.

IOW My claim doesn't need support, it's valid unless you prove me wrong. Not surprising you support Ford.


Quote:She's not here though so I only have your perception and interpretation to go on. Feels the same way about what for example?

She finds Ford less believable than I do. I'm pretty neutral on it. My wife, however, doubts Ford due to Ford's inability to remember where it took place, how she got home, etc. My wife remembers all of that. So, your suggestion that a person without empathy for Ford must not understand sexual assault is incorrect, and an insult to women who have been assaulted but don't believe Ford.
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#19
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
I am NOT neutral on this. There is no neutrality to be had. This isn't about presuming guilt, this is about MEN's refusal to accept the STATS on this issue. It is INFURIATING to hypocritically call Ford "credible" then ignore her. Then have a FUCKING BULLY use her pain as if she were a mere actress in Monday Night Raw.

"Why do they wait?" SHIT LIKE TRUMP, BULLIES LIKE TRUMP! Sexual assault is UNDER REPORTED, not because it doesn't happen, but because of the ignorance of society. False accusations on this topic  ARE EXTREMELY RARE!

And Ford isn't the only one accusing him. Worse is that he was nominated by an asshole who has his own assault accusers.

45 SHOULD NOT be rewarded by seating him just based on his vile behavior at the rally. This isn't a shock jock, or comedian doing this in the private sector. This is a person holding high office BULLYING an assault victim!

45 is a vile human, PERIOD!

(October 3, 2018 at 9:38 am)alpha male Wrote:
(October 3, 2018 at 9:30 am)Mathilda Wrote: I don't actually ever remember reading a post from you that showed any empathy.

There have been a few, but even if there weren't, extrapolating from behavior on an internet forum is unwarranted.

Quote:I am happy to be proved wrong about this.

IOW My claim doesn't need support, it's valid unless you prove me wrong.  Not surprising you support Ford.


Quote:She's not here though so I only have your perception and interpretation to go on. Feels the same way about what for example?

She finds Ford less believable than I do. I'm pretty neutral on it. My wife, however, doubts Ford due to Ford's inability to remember where it took place, how she got home, etc. My wife remembers all of that. So, your suggestion that a person without empathy for Ford must not understand sexual assault is incorrect, and an insult to women who have been assaulted but don't believe Ford.

Let me tell you something you sick fuck! MY LATE MOTHER, was abducted IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, in front of our TOWNHOUSE, RAPED BY TWO MEN whom THREATENED HER to force her not to look at them! THEY FORCED ORAL AND ANAL AND VAGINAL SEX ON HER.... But if we go by YOUR SICK FUCKING LOGIC, It couldn't have happened because she didn't see their faces! GO FUCK YOURSELF! And that was back when DNA was NOT widespread.

She could only identify the parking lot she was taken too, couldn't identify the car because they forced her to stare at the floor! No cameras in the parking lot either.But by your FUCKED UP LOGIC it didn't happen.
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#20
RE: In support of Dr. Ford
Empathy does not come from having gone through the same thing. For instance, my husband suffers prostate pain that is quite severe from an injury in his youth. I don't have a prostate, nor any such youthful injury that continues to cause me pain, yet I can still have sympathy for him when it occurs.

Contrariwise, having gone through a similar event does not always give one sympathy for others. When I was pregnant, I met quite a few people who were utterly dismissive of my experience and only interested in their own version.

Considering AM's wife names herself as his property, and also considering the rest of his behavior here, I suspect she says whatever he tells her to say (or what she feels is expected of her). It's just a feeling, though. I may be projecting.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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