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Why are Christians so full of hate?
RE: Why are Christians so full of hate?
Because no one wants to play with them anymore.
Formerly Old Man Marsh of TTA

"Don't let those gnomes and illusions get you down. They're just gnomes and illusions."
--Jake the Dog
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RE: Why are Christians so full of hate?
(October 11, 2018 at 4:31 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(October 11, 2018 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote: Honestly I always though me being out right and honest was the one thing you all did not really question...

I read your whole story there. Some pretty awful stuff, really. I feel for you man.

One thing I would say is that the religious interpretation of matters is but one among many. For you, God became a positive force that you can rely on. And after having gone through all that, after seeing how cruel and merciless the world can be, you found a way out. You interpreted God as being the cause of your salvation from torment, and thus now you see God as a way to help others transcend "the world gone mad."

But you are just one example. There are other examples. For instance, a young woman who was rescued from the sex trafficking industry and put into a loving atmosphere where she was educated and allowed to flourish as a human being might not embrace religion as you have. She might find it meaningful to become an advocate and create an organization which seeks to aid young women and girls who are in predicaments similar to hers. For you to tell her "No, no... you're doing it wrong because you haven't accepted my laundry list of beliefs" would be a demonstration of profound ignorance, not to mention a blindness to the fact that others in the world have suffered difficulties just like you. I guess my point is: your story, while valuable, is certainly not unique. There are other, similar stories that others have told except God is not part of the resolution.

In regards to honesty, I agree that you are honest. But only inasmuch as you yourself believe what you are saying. To me, their is a deeper honesty to be had, one where one (not only) speaks the truth as they know it, but also, questions their own worldview and participates in outside scrutiny of it. I see you as more of a "tow the line" sort of Christian in that, you seek to defend Christianity from all criticism, honest or otherwise. Maybe I'm wrong about that.

In the end, i am only trying to be faithful to what I have been given good bad or indifferent.  I am not saying nor have ever said there is only one way to interpret God or what Go has done. I often take up for the difference between me and the rest of christian as pointing out that If there is Grace fro God available when we willfully sin then how much more gace will there be if we simply do our best and get things wrong. (again the parable of the talents to direct God's intent/will there.) That means because I found God in a world gone mad via a specific formula then it is by this formula that I feel I must teach from as I know it works not only for me but to those like my wife and her drug addiction, my father and his laundry list of things, that we found not only redemption but favor in God's eye.

I more than anything what to share what God has done for me, and the only way I know that works is via the path God walked me down.
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RE: Why are Christians so full of hate?
(October 13, 2018 at 12:50 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:Just that yinz seem awfully angry and hateful towards Christians in general

Pure make believe your called out for the hateful or dishonest nonsense you say nothing more.

Quote:  I don't remember seeing the language, distortions, and pure spite; that I see here.  So the thread title and the following seems kind of odd to me
You just dislike being called out and try and make it seem like were the bad guys so you can cry victim 

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You bring it on yourself  Dodgy

Snigger. Is it not written, "As you sow, so shall you reap."
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RE: Why are Christians so full of hate?
It seems to me that Christians today see that religion and days of Christianity are numbered, that it doesn't make sense anymore and it's debunked long time ago. They are aware of this and thus are pushing for things like alt-right and Donald Trump as a last attempt to, not perhaps stop scientific progress, but to more like troll the society; they have totally lost their course and really don't know what they're doing anymore, and now that their identity is in crisis they are just desperately waving their hands trying to grab on anything as some sort of a drowning man. And they'll be doing this until they realize that they're not drowning and that the world will be much better without Christianity.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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