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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 21, 2021 at 10:01 pm
Quote:Interesting how you think God should conform to feeble man's ideas of how things should be done.
Interesting how just about every apologist uses this same lame cop-out when they can't actually explain their deity's actions. It's really just a re-hatch of "mysterious ways"
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 21, 2021 at 10:17 pm
(August 21, 2021 at 10:01 pm)Helios Wrote: Quote:Interesting how you think God should conform to feeble man's ideas of how things should be done.
Interesting how just about every apologist uses this same lame cop-out when they can't actually explain their deity's actions. It's really just a re-hatch of "mysterious ways" "mysterious ways" just means, we don't know how God does things, not that God's ways are intentionally obfuscated from us. It is entirely possible to gain a deeper understanding of God's ways, through very deliberate introspection. Of course, most people are not willing to do this kind of introspection, so a lot of people blame their own ignorance on God, calling His "mysterious ways" into question, with derision.
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 21, 2021 at 10:20 pm
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It's entirely possible by imagining what's not there.
Additionally, introspection is the understanding of one's self, not anything outside of one's self, unless you are willing to admit the fact that theists introspectively create the god concept in their minds.
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 21, 2021 at 10:20 pm
Nah it's just an excuse theists use when they can't make up some bullshit excuse for their gods behavior 
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 6:12 am
(August 21, 2021 at 9:30 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (August 21, 2021 at 9:22 pm)Foxaire Wrote: Life operates as though no deity exists. If it weren't for theists constantly spouting god is real, it is doubtful we would have the religious issues with which we have to deal today. Can you at least admit those "religious issues" make life more interesting?
Only in an "interesting times" Chinese curse sort of way. ![[Image: Eye_Roll.gif]](https://image.ibb.co/iZnGF6/Eye_Roll.gif)
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 6:21 am
(August 22, 2021 at 6:12 am)Ravenshire Wrote: (August 21, 2021 at 9:30 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Can you at least admit those "religious issues" make life more interesting?
Only in an "interesting times" Chinese curse sort of way. Well without those religious issues, atheists would have nothing to complain about.
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 6:30 am
(August 22, 2021 at 6:21 am)Ahriman Wrote: (August 22, 2021 at 6:12 am)Ravenshire Wrote: Only in an "interesting times" Chinese curse sort of way. Well without those religious issues, atheists would have nothing to complain about.
Without atheists you religious pukes would have to oppress each other.
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 6:33 am
Quote:Well without those religious issues, atheists would have nothing to complain about.
Life is full of things to complain about 
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 6:33 am
(August 22, 2021 at 6:30 am)Ravenshire Wrote: (August 22, 2021 at 6:21 am)Ahriman Wrote: Well without those religious issues, atheists would have nothing to complain about.
Without atheists you religious pukes would have to oppress each other. Religious people are oppressing atheists.......? Since when? That's not even happening.
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 6:40 am
(August 22, 2021 at 6:33 am)Ahriman Wrote: (August 22, 2021 at 6:30 am)Ravenshire Wrote: Without atheists you religious pukes would have to oppress each other. Religious people are oppressing atheists.......? Since when? That's not even happening.
Oh, grow the fuck up. In a country where some states actually bar non-believers from holding office a claim that there's no oppression of atheists is specious at best.
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