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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 9:58 am
(August 22, 2021 at 9:53 am)Ravenshire Wrote: (August 22, 2021 at 9:47 am)Ahriman Wrote: I attended Catholic schools throughout my childhood and adolescence. We didn't have Civics, but we did have Social Studies, a class in which we learned about our God given rights, and how all other people, including non-Catholics, had the same rights. We also learned how we should behave in relation to the world, and were encouraged to take an active part in the world, through evangelization, conservation of nature, donating to food shelters, etc.
There are no gawd given rights, you nimrod.
So, Civics fail. I'd recommend you hit up your local community college to address the gaping holes in your education. Being the product of kathy-lick schools, you undoubtedly have many. This explains alot 
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 9:58 am
(August 22, 2021 at 9:53 am)Ravenshire Wrote: (August 22, 2021 at 9:47 am)Ahriman Wrote: I attended Catholic schools throughout my childhood and adolescence. We didn't have Civics, but we did have Social Studies, a class in which we learned about our God given rights, and how all other people, including non-Catholics, had the same rights. We also learned how we should behave in relation to the world, and were encouraged to take an active part in the world, through evangelization, conservation of nature, donating to food shelters, etc.
There are no gawd given rights, you nimrod.
So, Civics fail. I'd recommend you hit up your local community college to address the gaping holes in your education. Being the product of kathy-lick schools, you undoubtedly have many. I suppose God didn't give you the right to breathe? Don't be stupid. Without God, you would not even exist, let alone have any rights at all. You owe Him everything.
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 10:01 am
(August 22, 2021 at 9:58 am)Ahriman Wrote: (August 22, 2021 at 9:53 am)Ravenshire Wrote: There are no gawd given rights, you nimrod.
So, Civics fail. I'd recommend you hit up your local community college to address the gaping holes in your education. Being the product of kathy-lick schools, you undoubtedly have many. I suppose God didn't give you the right to breathe? Don't be stupid. Without God, you would not even exist, let alone have any rights at all. You owe Him everything.
I owe your imaginary friend absolutely fuck-all. 
Aren't you a bit old for imaginary friends anyway?!?
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 10:02 am
Quote:I suppose God didn't give you the right to breathe? Don't be stupid. Without God, you would not even exist, let alone have any rights at all. You owe Him everything.
Even if he existed. We owe him nothing.
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 10:02 am
(August 22, 2021 at 10:01 am)Ravenshire Wrote: (August 22, 2021 at 9:58 am)Ahriman Wrote: I suppose God didn't give you the right to breathe? Don't be stupid. Without God, you would not even exist, let alone have any rights at all. You owe Him everything.
I owe your imaginary friend absolutely fuck-all.
Aren't you a bit old for imaginary friends anyway?!?
When you are locked in the basement with your stash of Chef Boyardee...what else is there?
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 10:03 am
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(August 21, 2021 at 9:18 pm)Ahriman Wrote: God doesn't control everything. He gave humans free will, and so, humans are free to choose what to make of their lives. Of course, genetics, family wealth, talent, and wisdom, all play a vital role in the spiritual class of a human being. You don't get to choose your circumstances, but you do choose how to respond to them.
god(s) don't control anything. Humans exert control thru the concept of god(s) and the attributes and authority they claim that god(s) have.
(August 21, 2021 at 9:35 pm)Mashmont Wrote: (August 21, 2021 at 9:22 pm)Foxaire Wrote: Life operates as though no deity exists. If it weren't for theists constantly spouting god is real, it is doubtful we would have the religious issues with which we have to deal today.
We've seen what happens when societies attempt to remove God. USSR, North Korea, Cuba, China
I don't need god(s) to be removed from society, you can believe in god all you want. Just remove the false entitlement and authority that the believers insist that they possess.
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 10:10 am
Quote: god(s) don't control anything. Humans exert control thru the concept of god(s) and the attributes and authority they claim that god(s) have.
What evidence do you have of that?
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RE: How Can We Have Moral Direction If God Controls Everything?
August 22, 2021 at 10:23 am
(August 22, 2021 at 10:10 am)Ahriman Wrote: Quote: god(s) don't control anything. Humans exert control thru the concept of god(s) and the attributes and authority they claim that god(s) have.
What evidence do you have of that?
Already responded to that earlier.
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