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"who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
#41
RE: "who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
Mystic, I keep telling you that you can rationally reinterpret anything you like.
(and I'm even encouraging you to do so!)

I agree, as I've repeatedly said...that a good god wouldn't say that shit.  So, if you find that something has to be done about shit in magic book that your god simply couldn't have said...the rational thing to do, is contend that god didn't say that.  Which you have.

Magic book still said it...that much doesn't change. Your issue is with magic book, and it's authors...not me. They put you in this position..and you're handling it very poorly.
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#42
RE: "who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
You are not answering the question. You are asserting the one do the twisting and re-interpretation is me.

Why don't you assume it was always clearly about Muta but was translated wrong and interpreted wrong by rulers to justify slavery and since Umar forbid Muta, they didn't want people to see Muta all over the Quran?

Why am I been told that my interpretation is insincere to what the author meant and not the corrupt rulers who sabotaged who the wage of the Quran called to and oppressed them?
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#43
RE: "who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
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#44
RE: "who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
(November 10, 2018 at 12:13 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You are not answering the question. You are asserting the one do the twisting and re-interpretation is me.
Well..you -are- reinterpreting it.  That was the whole point of the thread.  It's what you made the thread to show..that your reintepretation of what magic book says is more consistent with what you believe about god and what a god would have or could have said.

You think that the thing that magic book says is shitty.

Quote:Why don't you assume it was always clearly about Muta but was translated wrong and interpreted wrong by rulers to justify slavery and since Umar forbid Muta, they didn't want people to see Muta all over the Quran?

Why am I been told that my interpretation is insincere to what the author meant and not the corrupt rulers who sabotaged who the wage of the Quran called to and oppressed them?
I'm sure that your own reintepretation is sincere......but it's still a reintepretation in accordance with your desires. The slavers who wrote that shit were equally sincere......but if being sincere to -that- is what counts..well then, stop worrying and learn to love slavery.

Either you have a problem with that or you don't.  Either you have a problem with what magic book said or you don't.  Either you have a problem with a god that would say what magic book says...or you don't.

..............................?
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#45
RE: "who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
I have a problem of how vile and disgusting humans have interpreted Quran, so far, as I see no problems with Quran itself.
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#46
RE: "who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
No problems with your reinterpreted version of magic book, you mean.  

OFC you don't have any problems with that..you reinterpreted it precisely because you did have a problem with magic book and what it says..as you were so kind to tell us all in the OP.

Vile and disgusting, indeed.

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I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#47
RE: "who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
Why is the disgusting interpretation assumed to be what the book says and not the more rational and good interpretation?
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#48
RE: "who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
Maybe because the disgusting thing is what magic book says...I mean, shot in the dark, lol?

...............................................if it wasn't..you wouldn't have had to reinterpret it in the first place.......huh?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#49
RE: "who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
Why do you conclude that though?
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#50
RE: "who your Oaths give access over" vs "right hand possess"
Because I have eyes and can see?  It's not as if you didn't see it, too. 

Really, Mystic.  Take a breath and just try for me, this once, to get your shit together.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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