Just Look at all Those Fulfilled Prophecies!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

But it will stay mocked no matter how pissed off that makes you.

No, no you miss understand. I want the mockery to stay.. That way I can shine a light on the intentional ignorance you all chose to have on the subject. the wanton ignorance is the show case here not blaspheme.. Which is ironic because wanting ingnorance is blaspheme to you people and here you are caught in it hip deep


I LOVE IT when I shine the hypocritical light on you guys and you just put your heads in the sand and pretend you don't see it!

You do serve a purpose here, you make believers look like fools. I applaud your years of work on perfecting that.

[DeistPaladin]

That makes you a polytheist.

how so?

You believe in three different gods (small g gods).

[Drich]

how so?

You believe in three different gods (small g gods).

I asked a question you red herring away from it. if you want to have a conversation, nut up and answer my questions.
Again:
How many Federal governments does the United states have?

Does that mean I also believe in three different federal governments (small f?) No, as there is only 1 federal government that governs the united states.

One more question do you know what a word game is? or more specifically do you know what equivocation is? it is intentionally seeking a wrong definition to make or underscore a point.

When I said God is a title and not a name that phrase removed your ability to identify each deity as a separate God. again one God in the branches or parts. 

The only point of confusion here is the fog you are trying to hide behind

[The Grand Nudger]

......trinity-as-federal bureaucracy.  

I guess that would explain all the confusion between the various godly branches. More of an institution full of bickering idiots than a single unified being.

[DeistPaladin]

You believe in three different gods (small g gods).

I asked a question you red herring away from it. if you want to have a conversation, nut up and answer my questions.
Again:
How many Federal governments does the United states have?

Does that mean I also believe in three different federal governments (small f?) No, as there is only 1 federal government that governs the united states.

One more question do you know what a word game is? or more specifically do you know what equivocation is? it is intentionally seeking a wrong definition to make or underscore a point.

When I said God is a title and not a name that phrase removed your ability to identify each deity as a separate God. again one God in the branches or parts. 

The only point of confusion here is the fog you are trying to hide behind

The equivocation fallacy in an attempt to obfuscate is yours. "God" is not a title (or a government) but a being. 

It is also apparent that you believe in three gods (small g) since you think these three divine beings are separate. 

From dictionary.com

God

1. the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe.
   
   
2. the Supreme Being considered with reference to a particular attribute:the God of Islam.
   
   
3. ( lowercase ) one of several deities, especially a male deity, presiding over some portion of worldlyaffairs
   
4. ( often lowercase ) a supreme being according to some particular conception:the god of mercy.
   
5. Christian Science . the Supreme Being, understood as Life, Truth, Love, Mind, Soul, Spirit, Principle.
   
6. ( lowercase ) an image of a deity; an idol.
   
7. ( lowercase ) any deified person or object.
   
8. ( often lowercase ) Gods, Theater .
   the upper balcony in a theater.the spectators in this part of the balcony.

And given that you believe in three lower case gods, that makes you a polytheist. Should I look up that definition or are you good? 

Equivocate as much as you like.

[Angrboda]

or more specifically do you know what equivocation is? it is intentionally seeking a wrong definition to make or underscore a point.

That's a rather idiosyncratic definition of equivocation. Can you back that up?

[Drich]

The equivocation fallacy in an attempt to obfuscate is yours. "God" is not a title (or a government) but a being. 

It is also apparent that you believe in three gods (small g) since you think these three divine beings are separate. 

Ah... no.
The word in the bible is not english so the hebrew trumps the english understanding. The word in question in El ohim. which loosly translates to the word god small 'g' denoting dictionary.com 2 definationin certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

From dictionary.com

This is demonstrated by the singular translation of any deity from any culture or time period. EG greek gods gods of rome gods of egypt alah is also known as a god or the god for muslims. The word God in all forms is a title by nature. This is even true in christianity as in God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

Now the question arises it is approeiate to refer to a being or deity by title. sure we do this all he time in the english language, Mr president or the president or simply "doctor". It is perfectly normal and everyday ediquet to refer to a doctor by title only or a senator or again the president. So the question is to whom do we often refer to when addressing title only? We address the Father as he is the God head or executive branch. So when we say God capitoal G it refers to the Father but again can be used to describe the Son and the Holy Spirit.

We know this because of Genesis 1:1 and our good book's book, the blue letter bible.. you know the book that obliterated you BS about which herod was the herod of the gospel of luke..

so looking at genesis 1:1 we see 'elohiym or generic word God which could describe any number of God's but here it is capitalized and thus refers to the Father. So 1:1 of genesis God the Father creates...
https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/s...rimary_0_1

Now turn to Genesis 2: we have the first use of an actual name being used it's not elohim but Yahweh or in the hebrew Jehovah which is the NAME of God.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lex...3068&t=KJV

So to sum up chapter one generic term or the title God/'god' is being used which a nod to the Father Himself and chapter 2 Jehovah the literal name of God the Son is being used.

God

1. the one Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe.
   
   
2. the Supreme Being considered with reference to a particular attribute:the God of Islam.
   
   
3. ( lowercase ) one of several deities, especially a male deity, presiding over some portion of worldlyaffairs
   
4. ( often lowercase ) a supreme being according to some particular conception:the god of mercy.
   
5. Christian Science . the Supreme Being, understood as Life, Truth, Love, Mind, Soul, Spirit, Principle.
   
6. ( lowercase ) an image of a deity; an idol.
   
7. ( lowercase ) any deified person or object.
   
8. ( often lowercase ) Gods, Theater .
   the upper balcony in a theater.the spectators in this part of the balcony.
   

this is you again ignoring the truth in that the hebrew's use of the word God is split into a generic term as well as a title for God the Father and the Son and Spirit.

And given that you believe in three lower case gods, that makes you a polytheist. Should I look up that definition or are you good? 

Equivocate as much as you like.

it's called exegesis.. that word describes a critical explanation or interpretation of a text, especially of scripture.

Your failure. you assume by defining God in english you have primary source/supported your assertion. meaning I have no other logical recourse.

Here's the thing sport...

The bible was not written in english originally, so the words we must turn to and define to obtain original intent (not contextual translations/what people who only ever spoke english in their lives don't typically understand) Original intent can only be found by seeking the original words and see how they are used. So when you turn to the hebrew we clearly see Elohim is a generic title assigned to any general deity, per genesis 1:1 and the definition of the word elohim.  however because the word is a title that describes a supreme being in this case the head of the trinity, it can and is also used to describe the God the Father. simply by Calling the Father by his title.

We also God's name is not God it is Yahweh which translates to Jehovah which through the NT we find out this is also a name of Christ Himself.

So again when we turn to the original script we see God's name is not God but Jehovah and we find out that even the HEbrews used the term god to simply describe a general deity title but in turn also used the term in reverence to describe the Father.

So you turning to the dictionary means next to nothing as it is not a canonical source and can be dismissed when a canonical source contradicts it's definitions.

So.. your objection has been rightfully dismissed.
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or more specifically do you know what equivocation is? it is intentionally seeking a wrong definition to make or underscore a point.

That's a rather idiosyncratic definition of equivocation.  Can you back that up?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation

If you been using it any other way it seems that you may have misunderstood the word every time you used it. The best example I've seen given on the example is abbot and costello's bit "who's on first."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcRRaXV...&t=28&t=30

[DeistPaladin]

The word in the bible is not english so the hebrew trumps the english understanding. The word in question in El ohim. which loosly translates to the word god small 'g' denoting dictionary.com 2 definationin certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

The word in English comes from our understanding of the term "God" or small g "gods". Dictionaries don't invent words. They describe the meaning of words as they are used in our discourse. This includes how the term "God" or "gods" is understood by religions, including Christianity. 

I've debated many apologists and you are the only one I've heard from who thinks of that term as an office rather than as a being. 

Now you are free to redefine the term as an office held by three divine beings but, since these beings are both separate (distinct from one another as persons) and divine in nature (having godlike powers), that means you believe in three gods which makes you a polytheist. 

Equivocate as much as you like.

[Drich]

The word in the bible is not english so the hebrew trumps the english understanding. The word in question in El ohim. which loosly translates to the word god small 'g' denoting dictionary.com 2 definationin certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.

The word in English comes from our understanding of the term "God" or small g "gods". Dictionaries don't invent words. They describe the meaning of words as they are used in our discourse. This includes how the term "God" or "gods" is understood by religions, including Christianity. 

I've debated many apologists and you are the only one I've heard from who thinks of that term as an office rather than as a being. 

Now you are free to redefine the term as an office held by three divine beings but, since these beings are both separate (distinct from one another as persons) and divine in nature (having godlike powers), that means you believe in three gods which makes you a polytheist. 

Equivocate as much as you like.

Retard...

YOU CANT DEFAULT TO ENGLISH WHEN THE ORIGINS ARE HEBREW!!!! The Religion is not english so you referring to english source material is pointless when canonical definition trumps your little dictionary. The hebrew conclusively shows the word we use to represent elohim in context is a generic title that can be use to reference the Father. Argument over!!!

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You are out of your league here sport, having you return over and over to your defeated argument is sad. (it means you are not smart enough to carry on with this argument.) Maybe you should let the 'heavy thinkers' give it a shot.

[DeistPaladin]

canonical definition trumps your little dictionary

"Canonical"? 

I repeat, you're the only one I've ever heard from who defines "God" as an office. Everyone else on the planet seems to think of "God" as a being. That's why the dictionary defines it the way it does.