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RE: Heaven, paradise etc.
January 5, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Watson Wrote:I can't quite say I know for certain. Or have any inkling at all, for that matter.
But the way I see it, from what I believe about Heaven and God, eternal paradise is oneness with God. The line of distinction between you and God becomes non-existant and you are able to recognize the part of God that you were in your time on Earth. Your role to Him and His divine plan is reveal in it's entirety and you understand why you went through what you went through. From there...I don't know. I don't claim to know. I do believe in reincarnation, so that might have some baring on it. But otherwise I haven't got a clue.
Your second paragraph completely destroys the rationality displayed in the first.
When believers don't know...they make shit up. Don't feel bad. You all do it.
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January 5, 2011 at 3:36 pm
No it doesn't. From what I've experienced and felt in my life, I can envision what Heaven may be like and what may happen when I get there. Based on my own understanding of God that is what may be possible in Heaven. Do I know for sure that's what will happen? Fuck no. I could be completely wrong. But I'm not too worried on whether I am or no at all; it doesn't pay to use one's entire human life worrying about what the afterlife is like. Regardless of whether you're Christian, atheist, Buddhist, Hindu, Islam or what-have-you. Best let things take care of themselves when you get to that point. 
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January 5, 2011 at 4:13 pm
DoubtVsFaith Wrote:Heaven is defined as "fucking excellent", well, not exactly, but you know what I mean. Heaven, paradise, bliss, whatever.... it's defined as perfectly paradisal.....
So, if it exists, why would anyone care what form it took? If it's not experienced as paradise then in what sense is it "paradise"?
If it's heavenly paradisal, then it may even be able to take a more blissful form than you'd ever be able to imagine with your Earthly mind.
Then it seems that "Heaven" is a rave dropped with E and MJ and then bombed with N20.
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RE: Heaven, paradise etc.
January 5, 2011 at 4:16 pm
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*Googles N20*
EDIT: OH... laughing gas.
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RE: Heaven, paradise etc.
January 5, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Quote:No it doesn't. From what I've experienced and felt in my life, I can envision what Heaven may be like and what may happen when I get there.
Wishin' and Hopin' boy. Your god is as phony as a $3 bill.
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January 5, 2011 at 4:42 pm
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Hey, if you postpone a crazy hope until death because you're expecting a reward afterwards you'll never feel the resulting despair.
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January 5, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Well it's unfortunate you both feel that way, but that doesn't necessarily refute my faith at all now does it? 
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January 5, 2011 at 4:47 pm
I never claimed it did.
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January 5, 2011 at 6:43 pm
I hope i go to a heaven that i don't believe in, a paradise graced by a anthropomorphic deity that i refuse to acknowledge, where there are dragons.
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January 6, 2011 at 2:42 am
^^ best shit ever.
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