Government shutdown impacting you yet?

[Jehanne]

No expert in engineering believes that the wall will end-up costing $5 billion, more like 2 to 3 times that, and in the end, it will do nothing.

IIRC the 5 billion is for 200 miles of wall.  The border is approximately 2000 miles long.  It's going to be more like 50 and you know there will be overruns.

50+ billion buys a lot of far more surveilliance,  interdiction and lastly, tightening up border crossings which is where the majority of the problem is - and a wall addresses that not at all.

It's just utter nonsense; it shows why DT is a bumbling, imbecilic idiot, who is barely beyond the stage of reading and writing grade-school English.  The so-called wall will solve nothing, except, perhaps, an election victory in 2020.  That is what all of this is about ultimately.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The VA hospitals are running with full staff.

[mlmooney89]

It's just utter nonsense; it shows why DT is a bumbling, imbecilic idiot, who is barely beyond the stage of reading and writing grade-school English.  The so-called wall will solve nothing, except, perhaps, an election victory in 2020.  That is what all of this is about ultimately.

This. This is what it's all about. He doesn't care about the good of the country he cares about getting reelected and he knows the way to the heart of his followers. It helped him win the first time round...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It's just utter nonsense; it shows why DT is a bumbling, imbecilic idiot, who is barely beyond the stage of reading and writing grade-school English.  The so-called wall will solve nothing, except, perhaps, an election victory in 2020.  That is what all of this is about ultimately.

That is a full measure of the depth of his policies.

[TaraJo]

I'm a bit worried.  I work in health insurance and my company has a lot of medicare accounts and a lot of accounts from federal employees.  There's going to be a ripple effect to this stunt and it's going to hurt way more people than his stupid wall would ever help.  Even if you aren't directly effected, the indirect effect of all these federal employees not being able to spend money is going to hurt business.