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Evolution and Christianity and Salvation
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  (February 22, 2019 at 7:22 am)Jehanne Wrote:(February 21, 2019 at 12:50 pm)Drich Wrote: God kills in the flood all of the soul less monsters who were combining themselves with rouge demons. who says "God" is not an 'alien.' After all He fits the scientific definition. an why not 50 million because 'science' says 3.5 billion years ago. So God,, an extra trestial (not sentient being not of this planet) seeded or created or terriformed this planet with everything it needed to evolve into what it is today and it only took him/his tech or methods 6 days to do it. 6 of his day? six literal earth day or anyother measure of time called a day is not clear. but 6 days by his count was all it took. I can think this way because I am not a drone who can only look at science as one thing and faith as another. If we live long enough we will see science and faith come together. our ancestors where not stupid they built cities they mapped the stars they came up with philosphy all sorts of universal mathmatics all under their religious beliefs. Any technology to a person without it would appear as magic to them. Perhaps we will understand why jesus spit in the dirt made clay and rubbed it in the blind man's eye to make him see again, or why he told a leper to dunk himself 7 times in the jordan, or why scales fell from pauls eyes it al speaks to thing they do not understand but is certainly our grasp to explain as we become more aware of how God works in this world. RE: Evolution and Christianity and Salvation
February 25, 2019 at 2:13 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2019 at 2:13 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Defending ancient alien mythology by means of scientologists assertions should be a canary in the mines moment. Why do I get the feeling that it won't be?
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when I was a kid (and catholic) that always got me too. At what point in evolution does the sould come in? The catholic church - and other religious groups - dancing around what they could no longer deny dealt one of the first blows to my faith. If this was god's word or law last week and the church issues a statement modifying it, clearly people had a hand, at least in shaping religion.
RE: Evolution and Christianity and Salvation
February 25, 2019 at 2:31 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2019 at 2:32 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
That's one of the fun things about religions. Even if we assumed there was a god that wouldn't change anything about the religions on offer. They'd still be manufactured items, just as they already are, if we lived in a in a universe that actually -did- contain a god....which we don't, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
-thus spoke the lord, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: Evolution and Christianity and Salvation
February 25, 2019 at 3:59 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2019 at 4:01 pm by Drich.)
(February 25, 2019 at 2:29 pm)900ft j Wrote: when I was a kid (and catholic) that always got me too. At what point in evolution does the sould come in? The catholic church - and other religious groups - dancing around what they could no longer deny dealt one of the first blows to my faith. If this was god's word or law last week and the church issues a statement modifying it, clearly people had a hand, at least in shaping religion. but again what I have done is not change one iota of what is read in the bible. it read as it always has. I just point out how a none catholic look (they have been reading the bible wrong as the put the book chapter and verse denotation in the bible like 600 years ago and got it wrong causing everyone after to read it wrong. Again I simply rope off creation into the works of the father and the seven days it took to do the overall chapter 1 broad creation and chapter two Jesus' creation of the garden and everything in it. then point out jesus' completed the whole chapter two by day 4 so chapter three was not day 8= 6000 year old earth. I point out that there is no time line between 4th day completion of chapter 2 and the fall of man chapter 3 which did happen 6000 years ago which means the 3.5 billion years science is looking for could very neatly fit between chapter 2 and chapter 3 which should not be 2 and 3 but is.. That my friend is the only thing that has been changed about the bible which cause a terrible mess of understanding of how creation works in relation to evolution. the addition of book chapter and verse. If you read the first three chapters of genesis the natural break is to rope off God the father's creation on day 7. on this time line man was created day 6 (man had no soul) however Jesus created adam day 4 with a soul and put him in the garden which was a separate thing than the rest of the world. (February 25, 2019 at 2:31 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: That's one of the fun things about religions. Even if we assumed there was a god that wouldn't change anything about the religions on offer. They'd still be manufactured items, just as they already are, if we lived in a in a universe that actually -did- contain a god....which we don't, lol. That is where all of you fail. God is not religion God is bigger than any one single religious movement. You all look to put God in these tiny little religious boxes of small faith all the while missing out on the bigger simpler truth... RE: Evolution and Christianity and Salvation
February 25, 2019 at 4:12 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2019 at 4:16 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Physician, heal thyself, lol. How much time have you spent trying to cram your god into the religion of genesis? Think you might be missing out on a bigger, simpler truth, perhaps? Has anyone ever suggested that you were doing so? Who fails, again?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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