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Poll: How should we deal with flat-Earthers?
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Ignore them
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24 60.00%
Debate them with evidence and reason
27.50%
11 27.50%
Other
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5 12.50%
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Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(August 23, 2019 at 1:18 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: How level was the camera. the reference lines are drawn in and that could easily be on the slant.

I'm curious to know why you present this as a possible objection. It seems that to make the objection you must first agree with the man's assumption that we should see a drop in height; you account for its absence by a possibly slanted camera. If it turns out the camera was level, what does that do for your position? Will you come up with another objection; or accept the man's point?
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RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(August 23, 2019 at 1:50 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 23, 2019 at 1:18 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: How level was the camera. the reference lines are drawn in and that could easily be on the slant.

I'm curious to know why you present this as a possible objection. It seems that to make the objection you must first agree with the man's assumption that we should see a drop in height; you account for its absence by a possibly slanted camera. If it turns out the camera was level, what does that do for your position? Will you come up with another objection; or accept the man's point?


Why would Anyone present that as possible explanation?

Because that is how science is done?

Because the most important thing required to do science is not skill in thinking you had discovered new things, but instead it is the skill in discovering why what you think is new is not new at all?   

The practice of science requires you to exclude all possibilities that your enthusiasm Had told you were a new discovery were in fact nothing of the sort?

Only when you’ve exercise your full measure of skills in discovering why what you think you discovered, you in fact didn’t, are you even beginning to enter the place where you can seriously consider the possibility that what seemed to be new during your moment of exuberance could in fact be new?

Let’s just say the purported evidence is so trivial, that had it actually been as the man described it, it would have been found a long time ago by people far more observant and less gullible than he, much less you. 

You seem to think the weight of accumulated evidence doesn’t matter.   Fruit of vast human endeavors are so flimsy that people of modest intellect, trivial education, high self esteem and low capacity for critical thinking would readily overturn it with what can be gleamed by one single glance.
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RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
Yeah, the whole flat Earth "experiment" is botched. Mind you this is from a "prominent" flat Earth book and all he's using is a very bad screenshot from some YouTube video giving b&w blurry photo, wrong numbers, etcetera.
Here's a link of this video debunked

https://www.metabunk.org/using-mountain-...rth.t8800/



Here's another claim from flat earthers. Flat earthers don't belive in the gravity ("It's only a theory")

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gravity is like a heathen religious superstition. People believe it tobe true, simply because the modern day witch-doctors, whom we call “scientists,” say so.

According to the heliocentric model, the force of gravityat the equator is perfectly balanced against the centrifugal force ofthe spinning earth. All persons and objects are supposedly perfectly balanced through gravity by their mass against thecentrifugal force of the spinning earth to remain attached to the earth.

The problem with the gravitational theory is that according to that theory, the gravitational attraction to the earth by all persons and objects remains the same at all places on the earth. That means that the gravitational force at the North Pole is the same as the gravitational force at the equator. That poses a very real problem if the earth is spinning as alleged. That is because the centrifugal force decreases every mile toward the north pole, where the centrifugal force is ultimately reduced to zero, because the North Pole is the axis of the supposedly spinning earth. On a globe, as you travel north or south of the equator the circumference parallel to the equator becomes less. Consequently, the speed of the earth’s spin at those more northern and southern latitudes from the equator would be slower than its speed of spin at the equator. For example, at the 45 degree north latitude, the earth’s spin should be approximately 700 miles per hour. As thespeed of the spin is reduced, so also is the correlative centrifugalforce. The spinning earth and the mystical force of gravity are thus proven to be fictions.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
The earth is moving upwards at a speed of 9.8 metres per second squared.
I bet you people don't even know what gravity is. :-)




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RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(August 24, 2019 at 1:37 am)Little lunch Wrote: The earth is moving upwards at a speed of 9.8 metres per second squared.
I bet you people don't even know what gravity is. :-)

LOL. Here's a demonstration.

[Image: Fig-Newton-Recipe-7685.21.jpg]
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RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(August 24, 2019 at 1:37 am)Little lunch Wrote: The earth is moving upwards at a speed of 9.8 metres per second squared.
I bet you people don't even know what gravity is. :-)

There is no gravity.  The Earth just sucks.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
I fucking love fig newtons
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(February 26, 2019 at 10:12 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: There is a school of thought that says we should engage with Flat-Earthers in order to bring these conversations out into the open and not push FEers to the "fringes" of society, so to sepak.

There is another idea that these people are holding fixed beliefs that will never change in the fact of evidence or reason.

After having very few, but intense, interactions ith flat-earthers, I've ultimately decided that these conversations are not worth having. I think that some people are prone to conspiracy and will shout conspiracy no matter what happens, where it happens or who is involved. I think having some sort of ominous group to blame for the bad things that happen in the world gives some people a strange sense of comfort.

What do you guys think and why?
I think they should be ignored.  It's too ridiculous and it will just be an exercise in listening to people who are in denial and/or trolling.
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RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(August 24, 2019 at 6:36 pm)energyBeing22 Wrote: I think they should be ignored.  It's too ridiculous and it will just be an exercise in listening to people who are in denial and/or trolling.

I agree. While I am tempted to say that we should debate them for the sake of convincing the fence-sitters... It's not my job to think for someone else. Almost every single Flat Earth "proof" has been thoroughly debunked in one way or another somewhere on the internet. It's very easy to google search "flat earth debunked" or look up the science behind specific claims and see what holds up and what doesn't.

That being said, I can maybe understand someone who maybe says they are not a flat-earther but are curious about some of the ideas. Those people I might actually fight to keep from going to the dark side.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.
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RE: Should Flat-Earthers be debated or ignored?
(August 24, 2019 at 6:36 pm)energyBeing22 Wrote:
(February 26, 2019 at 10:12 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: There is a school of thought that says we should engage with Flat-Earthers in order to bring these conversations out into the open and not push FEers to the "fringes" of society, so to sepak.

There is another idea that these people are holding fixed beliefs that will never change in the fact of evidence or reason.

After having very few, but intense, interactions ith flat-earthers, I've ultimately decided that these conversations are not worth having. I think that some people are prone to conspiracy and will shout conspiracy no matter what happens, where it happens or who is involved. I think having some sort of ominous group to blame for the bad things that happen in the world gives some people a strange sense of comfort.

What do you guys think and why?
I think they should be ignored.  It's too ridiculous and it will just be an exercise in listening to people who are in denial and/or trolling.
Ignore the people, address the issues. If we let them go unchallenged some people will think they actually have a case.
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