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War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
#11
RE: War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
(March 28, 2019 at 9:59 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:
(March 28, 2019 at 9:36 am)tackattack Wrote: That statement makes me pretty morose. Sad that mass killing is the best option in some situations. Maybe we should hijack the thread to talk about evolutionary aggression and escalatio?

War doesn't -have- to be mass killing, in an important sense, any more killing than necessary is a waste of military resources - but in practice the bloodthirstier of the two involved parties are the ones who make the rules.  The inevitable result is that the benevolent and idealistic commander who seeks to limit the casualties attributable to his actions is at a disadvantage.  

It's not his charge or duty to lose a war honorably, thus the escalation of body count on both sides.

I will always be for avoiding war until you cant. I am a militant peace monger myself. But I am not delusional either. Our species is like any other, we group and compete, and sometimes it is unavoidable. I don't want to live under Russia's idea of government, or China or Iran or North Korea's ideas of government. I certainly will not vilify every single individual that might be stuck under those governments, but yea, I do want a military to at least keep them in check.

Again, as I said before, in the age of nukes, the best humanity can do right now, is keep war non nuclear and always realize that mutual destruction by using nukes nobody will win.
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#12
RE: War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
I went to war to get the fuck out of Indiana.

And to shoot people.

But mostly to get the fuck out of Indiana.
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#13
RE: War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
I heard they had good food. Wink
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#14
RE: War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
(March 28, 2019 at 11:34 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: I heard they had good food. Wink

Hoosiers go to Scotland for the haute cuisine. Read
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#15
RE: War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
Of course there's a reason for war. It's a struggle for valuable resources which will benefit a nation and its citizens. Let's not pretend that WWII and the following economic boom wasn't one of the best boosts for the US that any country has seen in history.
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#16
RE: War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
Well yes . The war for resources.
Why are Sweden and Switzerland neural countries, but rich?
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#17
RE: War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
(March 29, 2019 at 1:16 am)Interaktive Wrote: Well yes . The war for resources.
Why are Sweden and Switzerland neural countries, but rich?

Nazi gold?

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#18
RE: War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
(March 29, 2019 at 1:22 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(March 29, 2019 at 1:16 am)Interaktive Wrote: Well yes . The war for resources.
Why are Sweden and Switzerland neural countries, but rich?

Nazi gold?

Sweden helped Hitler, right?
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#19
RE: War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
(March 28, 2019 at 11:26 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Of course there's a reason for war.  It's a struggle for valuable resources which will benefit a nation and its citizens.  Let's not pretend that WWII and the following economic boom wasn't one of the best boosts for the US that any country has seen in history.

But you can't say that's the reason we fought that war. It was a benefit, but not the reason.

(March 29, 2019 at 5:46 am)Interaktive Wrote:
(March 29, 2019 at 1:22 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Nazi gold?

Sweden helped Hitler, right?

And the Allies. Neutrals can do that.
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#20
RE: War is nonsense and manipulation and there is no reason to fight?
(March 29, 2019 at 6:51 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(March 28, 2019 at 11:26 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Of course there's a reason for war.  It's a struggle for valuable resources which will benefit a nation and its citizens.  Let's not pretend that WWII and the following economic boom wasn't one of the best boosts for the US that any country has seen in history.

But you can't say that's the reason we fought that war. It was a benefit, but not the reason.

(March 29, 2019 at 5:46 am)Interaktive Wrote: Sweden helped Hitler, right?

And the Allies. Neutrals can do that.

love sweden)))
Is she helping the USA now?
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