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Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
(April 18, 2019 at 3:05 pm)Draconic Aiur Wrote:
(April 18, 2019 at 4:00 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Your view does not explain the reason why some Muslims practice their religion based on real, personal belief, and total understanding for its rules and constraints.

The other opinion is that constitutions and codes of ethics that humans practice here on earth are not really satisfactory in all conditions; thus some people seek refugee in Islam's holy Quran. Islam as a word means submission as you said; and a Muslim must take a personal oath to abandon human beliefs and seek total refugee under God.

In other words; the secret for Islam's success is that it's simply providing a better story for our existence and a better system of rights stated in the Quran. Human laws and constraints failed to protect humanity and caused 2 world wars and caused us all to reach the bottleneck of apocalypse: nations of confused people aiming nukes at each other.

Because they are brainwashed at a early age or brainwashed when at a weakness state like after a death in the family or a nation in a warlike state. It happens many times when someone offers  that a loved one is going to heaven or you can go to heaven or burn in hell if you do anything wrong. Control and manipulation plus sweet candy voices of a faraway land called heaven where an all powerful being loves you and has chosen you, who doesn't want that right? Islam is just one of many, but like you said 1 billion Muslims live in the world. So lets change that shall we:1 billion brainwashed noobs

I didn't discuss cases of "brainwashing"; and it's very ambiguous to say that all the religious are brainwashed into belief. That's oversimplification of the situation at hand; and the theory breaks and shutters when it meets believers who weren't brainwashed  -like me-; they -and I- simply don't buy what you say; after all we believed out of conviction and went through all the counter-arguments against the faith; but still we hold it.

Muslims who believe for real are a constant source of headache for the "brainwashing" theory; because simply the argument that work against "brainwashed" Muslims don't work with true believers: in other words you have to bring me a better, stronger arguments to make me withdraw from the square I chose by my own free will.

second thing, Muslims are not "noobs". If there is a magical tactic capable of "brainwashing" the minds of whole billions; then I think militarizes, armies and intelligence agencies would've practiced it. But until this day, Islam -and Abrahamic religions as a whole- dominated the belief system of billions. Saying that all are "noobs" tell a lot about your background+age; and also a lot about your personality.

(April 18, 2019 at 10:58 pm)robvalue Wrote: The Quran is indeed a much more streamlined document, for someone who picks it up and reads it through (or has it forced on them). It constantly reinforces its themes as noted, trying to produce a broken-down mental state of submission and hatred/suspicion towards the out-group.

The Bible, by comparison, is just a mess. It’s a big pile of stories all loosely cobbled together, with themes going all over the place; but still with a general theme of submission to god and negativity towards the out-group.

The Quran is not forged; that's why it's more coherent and way stronger and to-the-point more than the bible.
The bible contains both truth and falsehood, so it's more of a mess. The bible is more like the Islamic Hadith.

Your take on the Quran is not because it is "a masterwork of deception"; it was authored by a 7th century Arab who couldn't read or write in times where writing was only for the high class after all.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
Noob means a person you should never play with because their terrible at playing or amateur. I put it there, because religious people don't win the game of logic. Also since the word "noob" is still fresh and cool you lack any pazazz and shows your age old man. LMAO!


A brainwashed person won't believe he or she is brainwashed until they confront the truth and then they'll have a fit, because the truth always hurts and believing in afterlife is escaping reality.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
That is a novel point of view which I have never read before. It would work quite well as a brain washing technique, if it were really true.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
Is it even humanly possible to read all the Sunni traditions?

I've read the Qur'an, and that's about it when it comes to Islamic literature.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
The forty million year old thread has risen from the dead.

All hail the forty million year old thread.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
There are a few necroed threads as of late. Someone grab a ndcrothread meme!

On mobile, its a pain to do so.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
(September 26, 2019 at 7:16 pm)factseeker Wrote: That is a novel point of view which I have never read before. It would work quite well as a brain washing technique, if it were really true.

The method of reviving this from the dead -AKA the comment-, sucks.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
(September 27, 2019 at 8:17 am)LastPoet Wrote: There are a few necroed threads as of late. Someone grab a ndcrothread meme!

On mobile, its a pain to do so.

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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
(September 26, 2019 at 7:59 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: The forty million year old thread has risen from the dead.

All hail the forty million year old thread.

It is not too 40 million years old, it is 6,000 years old! Allah makes it look older to test our faith!
As a species, we are fucked. To the next generation, I offer my inadequate apologies.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
The reading of the Quran cannot be literally!
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