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Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
(October 7, 2019 at 5:43 pm)Ricardo Wrote: The reading of the Quran cannot be literally!

How so? the statement is very wrong because Arabic is language, so just like any normal language, some parts are literal while some parts are relative.

It's not rocket science like the believers of this theory advocate. In a sense, it only exists to give the Imams and the scholars to build -or dig?- tunnels around the word to make it mean something else.

Symbolism is used heavily in Dark Metal, not in the Quran..if you understand Arabic then the book is crystal clear.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
You have to know how to interpret the Koran not literally!
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
(October 7, 2019 at 5:57 pm)Ricardo Wrote: You have to know how to interpret the Koran not literally!

No; hearing a Marylin Manson song would be more useful.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
Allegory and symbolism, in arabic..Atlas..is still allegory and symbolism.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
I don't get it, if you find reading (all!) sunni hadiths tiring, don't read them. Also OP clearly isn't well versed in islamic theology and yet makes very general claims about Islam as a whole.

And summarizing all the hadiths you supposedly read and understood in one thing (fearing hell and threats of torment) says it all about the depth of thought our fellow atheists display when it comes to Islam.
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
(November 29, 2019 at 3:24 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: I don't get it, if you find reading (all!) sunni hadiths tiring, don't read them. Also OP clearly isn't well versed in islamic theology and yet makes very general claims about Islam as a whole.

And I don't see any general claims. Could you quote them please ?
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
(April 18, 2019 at 4:00 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Your view does not explain the reason why some Muslims practice their religion based on real, personal belief, and total understanding for its rules and constraints.

The other opinion is that constitutions and codes of ethics that humans practice here on earth are not really satisfactory in all conditions; thus some people seek refugee in Islam's holy Quran. Islam as a word means submission as you said; and a Muslim must take a personal oath to abandon human beliefs and seek total refugee under God.

In other words; the secret for Islam's success is that it's simply providing a better story for our existence and a better system of rights stated in the Quran. Human laws and constraints failed to protect humanity and caused 2 world wars and caused us all to reach the bottleneck of apocalypse: nations of confused people aiming nukes at each other.

Nah, the "secret" of islam's success is the same as for all other successful religions, the sword. Once compulsion and fear are removed, islam will die as surely as christianity currently is.

Aww, crapola I replied to a necroed thread without realising it. And worse, I realised it first time round.
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
(November 30, 2019 at 1:39 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: And I don't see any general claims. Could you quote them please ?

The title of the post, for instance ?
Qur'anic revelation is the sole path to ultimate reality. All argumentation and philosophy is an expression of arrogance and an overestimation of human cognitive ability. 

"But believe me, Cleanthes, the most natural feeling that a well-disposed mind will have on this occasion is a longing desire and expectation that God will be pleased to remove or at least to lessen this profound ignorance, by giving mankind some particular revelation, revealing the nature, attributes, and operations of the divine object of our faith." (Hume's Dialogues)


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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
(November 30, 2019 at 8:44 am)Klorophyll Wrote:
(November 30, 2019 at 1:39 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: And I don't see any general claims. Could you quote them please ?

The title of the post, for instance ?

And I don't see any general claims. Could you quote them please ?
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RE: Islam is about tiring the reader, not so much about truth (Scripture literature)
Klorophyll?

...any answer?

My question again:

And I don't see any general claims. Could you quote them please ?
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