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[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I think the chief point here is that, while there is certainly institution racism, the notion that people alive today should be blamed for slavery isn't really supportable.

Boru

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I think the chief point here is that, while there is certainly institution racism, the notion that people alive today should be blamed for slavery isn't really supportable.

Boru

It's a notion I'd expect from a sophomore philosophy student.

[Amarok]

Fuck buck passing. It's blaming the children for the deeds of their ancestors. Cheap shots, nothing more.

I'm not blaming children for their ancestors i'm blaming an institution for it's role in legalizing and sustaining an evil practice

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I think the chief point here is that, while there is certainly institution racism, the notion that people alive today should be blamed for slavery isn't really supportable.

Boru

It's a notion I'd expect from a sophomore philosophy student.

Are you claiming governing institutions are not responsible for actions it allowed or endorsed .

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And we still have the sins of the greatfuckinggrandfathers visited upon the children.

Blaming a institution is not the same as blaming an individual

[Gawdzilla Sama]

And it's not the same institution. Tempus fugit.

[Shell B]

I mean the same government that is responsible for slavery in America

It's not the same government. The government responsible for slavery in America is the British government, as we were British colonies when slavery was instituted. The colonies didn't abolish slavery when they instituted their own government, which was stupid, but it took less than a lifetime to do so. Edit: Stupid is the wrong word. It was inhumane, probably even monstrous.

Moreover, none of those men are still alive, so I can't see how it's the same government.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

And let's not forget who made most of those people slaves in the first place, that being other Africans. White men bought slaves in Africa, they didn't capture them, except in some odd occasions. Blacks should blame blacks for slavery. (Africans were keeping slaves before the white man started buying them.)

[Rev. Rye]

And let's not forget who made most of those people slaves in the first place, that being other Africans. White men bought slaves in Africa, they didn't capture them, except in some odd occasions. Blacks should blame blacks for slavery. (Africans were keeping slaves before the white man started buying them.)

True, but bear in mind, the Atlantic slave trade was actually worse, since within the African slave trade, slaves actually had a realistic chance of advancing to a state beyond "house n****er." And freedom could actually mean something.

The treatment of slaves in Africa varied widely. Ottobah Cuguano, a former slave, remembered slaves as being ‘well fed … and treated well’. Olaudah Equiano, another former slave who wrote an account of his life, noted that slaves might even own slaves themselves. In larger states some slaves worked in government administration, and might become an important state or royal official with wide ranging powers. Other slaves in Africa might work within their master’s household as domestic servants or as agricultural labourers. Others were sent to work in the gold mines of West Africa. Pictured here are two weights in the shape of a soldier and captive. They were used to weigh gold dust, which was itself used as a type of money. Mining for gold was hard and dangerous work, and many died.

Africans usually enslaved ‘other’ people, not their own particular ethnic, or cultural, group. Slaves were taken as prisoners of war, or enslaved in payment for debt or as punishment for crime. This enslavement was usually on a small scale. It was enough to supply the demand for slaves within Africa, but not enough to supply the demand from outside. As the demand from outsiders such as Arabs and Europeans grew, warfare and raids to get slaves and the kidnapping of individuals increased. Europeans wanted to buy enslaved Africans to work on the land they owned on the Caribbean islands and in America. They chose Africans for a number of reasons, one being because they were used to farming. Pictured here is a 20th century hoe, a tool used to work the soil. It is from the Igbo people of Nigeria, West Africa.

[Shell B]

Blacks should blame blacks for slavery.

I certainly wouldn't go that far. Rich white men created the market here. Blacks, and other people historically or currently enslaved, should blame the sellers and the buyers. Those individuals are the only folks to blame. You don't spot a slaver by color. You spot them by their possession/distribution of slaves only.

[Rev. Rye]

It's not the same government. The government responsible for slavery in America is the British government, as we were British colonies when slavery was instituted. The colonies didn't abolish slavery when they instituted their own government, which was stupid, but it took less than a lifetime to do so.

It's a long one, of course. 91 years to be exact; in fact, during the deliberations over the Declaration of Independence, John Adams said "Mark me, Franklin. If we give in on this issue, there will be trouble one hundred years hence. Posterity will never forgive us.” Of course, I would point out that the biggest groups keeping slavery alive were the Southern states who wanted to keep their cash cow rolling and knew they needed slavery to keep it so. The Three-fifths compromise that meant a slave only counted as 60% of a person? It came about because the South wanted to count their slaves as part of the population specifically so they could wield a disproportionate amount power. The North didn't want them counted because they didn't get a vote anyway. Eventually they settled on three-fifths and the South still got what it wanted. And while I can't speak for all the bullshit between 1865 and 1965, FDR blocked anti-lynching legislation specifically to appease the Southern states, whose farmers were necessary for the New Deal.

Honestly, I suspect Capitalism is as much a problem as a specific body of government.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Blacks should blame blacks for slavery.

I certainly wouldn't go that far. Rich white men created the market here. Blacks, and other people historically or currently enslaved, should blame the sellers and the buyers. Those individuals are the only folks to blame. You don't spot a slaver by color. You spot them by their possession/distribution of slaves only.

They learned where they could get slaves. The markets in Africa were already there.

"The treatment of slaves in Africa varied widely. " Rev., you make my point.