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Something Star Trek Missed
#11
RE: Something Star Trek Missed
(May 23, 2019 at 2:32 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Never mind the fact that the whole universe speaks English.......


If two races that evolved on different planets met - wouldn't simple contact likely be fatal for both sides due to bacterial and viral contamination?

That depends on what you mean by "races". If they're different types of the same species, that was able to travel to another planet and then both lived in separation for a very, very long time, until one of them developed - I don't know - pointy ears, and the other - say - wrinkled foreheads, but their core biology is essentially the same, then - yes.

If they're different lifeforms, or even just different species, that have substantially different genetic makeup, then - unlikely. Most bacteria and viruses evolved to be able to infect very specific targets, so that most infectious diseases do not normally cross inter-species barrier, unless a "lucky" mutation occurs, at which point - essentially - a new disease is created.

I'm not well versed in the lore of Star Trek, so I don't know how they explain the fact, that so many sentient lifeforms all over the Universe look exactly like humans, with minor cosmetic variations. But it's probably safe to say, that the ones that can inter-breed can also give each other space-syphilis, or whatnot.
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#12
RE: Something Star Trek Missed
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The reason that there are so many humanoids in the Star Trek Universe is that a lost civilization terraformed the galaxy and seeded it with humanoid life.

TOS The Paradise Syndrome.
TNG The Chase.
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#13
RE: Something Star Trek Missed
Just use the goddamned transporter! Every time!
Potentially detrimental microbes are removed via the transporters' bio-filters before molecule reassembly.
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#14
RE: Something Star Trek Missed
please ignore. (Gae added the episodes)
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#15
RE: Something Star Trek Missed
(May 23, 2019 at 7:45 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Nerd Hat On (for a sidebar)

The reason that there are so many humanoids in the Star Trek Universe is that a lost civilization terraformed the galaxy and seeded it with humanoid life.

TOS The Paradise Syndrome.
TNG The Chase.

Not sure what "seeded" means, in terms of biology. Do they all have DNA? Are they genetically compatible? Or are they different kinds of lifeforms - perhaps not necessarily carbon-based - that were at some point modified to look like humans... and speak English?...
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#16
RE: Something Star Trek Missed
TOS and TNG were ambiguous, left up to the viewer to decide.  Trade paperbacks (and the equally official game universe) go into greater (but not really any more workable, lol) detail.

Broadly, we're all descendants, somehow...maybe.....of that ancient race.....but even they aren't sure of that. Things went horribly awry when they collapsed, lol.

-and it's universal translators that allow us to talk to each other, we all hear and understand whats being said in our native languages.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#17
RE: Something Star Trek Missed
(May 23, 2019 at 8:31 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: TOS and TNG were ambiguous, left up to the viewer to decide.  Trade paperbacks (and the equally official game universe) go into greater (but not really any more workable, lol) detail.

Broadly, we're all descendants, somehow...maybe.....of that ancient race.....but even they aren't sure of that.  Things went horribly awry when they collapsed, lol.

-and it's universal translators that allow us to talk to each othkothker, we all hear and understand whats being said in our native languages.

A universal translator would make anyone talking appear like those Japanese folks in old Godzilla movies that are overdubbed....
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#18
RE: Something Star Trek Missed
The plot patches just make more plot holes, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#19
RE: Something Star Trek Missed
Sure - it' s just a TV show - entertainment.


But can I help it if I'm amused by picking out all the technical mistakes?

Big Grin
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#20
RE: Something Star Trek Missed
..at least it's not star wars.......

: ducks :
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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