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Dem debates
#31
RE: Dem debates
Fun facts for the afflicted.

Illegals are emphatically not eligible for our safety net. Legals aren’t even eligible until they’ve been residing legally for a number of years.

Mixed status families receive benefits.....on account of the fact that an American citizen is in their care, but by the nature of their mixed status they receive less, costing those programs less.

Of that cost, immigrants pay in more to those programs than they recieve.

Concern trolling over costs is pointless, these facts will not change the mind of the anti-immigrant set because their opinions aren’t based on facts in the first place. Nor frankly, will reminding them that benefits go to citizen children. They prefer to think of them as anchor babies instead of their fellow Americans.

The new cruelty isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. It’s the only thing promised and accomplished, and entirely what the right wing nutballs have in mind when they say “trump did what he said d he would”. That was the part that people voted for, it’s what they wanted, that’s what they were listening to. The re-election bid is going full gestapo because they know that’s what the set wants and they know that this set lives in a fact free world of brown takers who must be punished for having the gall to believe the things we USians say about ourselves and our country.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#32
RE: Dem debates
(July 1, 2019 at 3:14 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(July 1, 2019 at 2:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: EVERY SINGLE PERSON that enters the US and says, 'I am seeking asylum' has, because of that phrase, done so legally. It doesn't matter if they came at a port of entry or crossed in the dead of night or were smuggled across in the back of a lorry. There is no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker.
Boru
By your standards a parrot can be legally eligible for asylum.

Boru was even kind enough to put 'person' in all caps, and you come up with this drivel as a retort?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#33
RE: Dem debates
I think biker may not realize that those are -our- standards, written into our laws.

Not that it would matter, they’re bad laws just like citizen children are anchor babies.

Next we’ll hear that they parrot the words then disappear, not showing up for their cases.

This is just as fact free, but it’s nit as if facts matter.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#34
RE: Dem debates
(July 2, 2019 at 9:02 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: I think biker may not realize that those are -our- standards, written into our laws.

Not that it would matter, they’re bad laws just like citizen children are anchor babies.

Next we’ll hear that they parrot the words then disappear, not showing up for their cases.  

This is just as fact free, but it’s nit as if facts matter.

These are the same people who probably think Puerto Rico is a foreign country.  Facts don't matter.  They'll scream "PROPOGANDA" at anything they disagree with, then pretend they're 'open minded'
The whole tone of Church teaching in regard to woman is, to the last degree, contemptuous and degrading. - Elizabeth Cady Stanton
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#35
RE: Dem debates
(July 2, 2019 at 9:00 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(July 1, 2019 at 3:14 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: By your standards a parrot can be legally eligible for asylum.

Boru was even kind enough to put 'person' in all caps, and you come up with this drivel as a retort?

You just don't fucking get it...

Let me show you how it works (I got this from a friend I served with that recently retired from EPIC who worked closely wth border Patrol)

INS worker: Why are you coming to this country?
Applicant: I want to work hard and make a better life for myself and family.

Outcome : denied. Economic advantage isn't considered high priority......

Or

INS worker: Why do you want to come to this country?
Applicant ( same one, second time around) ASYLUM!

Outcome - allowed to stay pending hearings...

Poor people aren't dumb. They learn the right responses very, very quickly.
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#36
RE: Dem debates
Quote:INS worker: Why do you want to come to this country?
Applicant ( same one, second time around) ASYLUM!

Outcome - allowed to stay pending hearings...

Sorry, I was under the impression that, underTrumpian policy, asylum seekers are returned to Mexico to await a decision on their asylum request.  If so, this is in direct violation of US and international law.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#37
RE: Dem debates
Well, don’t worry. Uncle Sam will get tired of paying the bills soon...and then remember that it’s perfectly legal to run a full fledged labor camp so long as the human chattel are really bad hombres. The criminals said they came to work, right?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#38
RE: Dem debates
(July 2, 2019 at 12:21 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Well, don’t worry.  Uncle Sam will get tired of paying the bills soon...and then remember that it’s perfectly legal to run a full fledged labor camp so long as the human chattel are really bad hombres.  The criminals said they came to work, right?

Fair point.  If there was ever a group of 'bad hombres' that were a major threat to the peace and security of the US, it's these savages:

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Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#39
RE: Dem debates
(July 2, 2019 at 12:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:INS worker: Why do you want to come to this country?
Applicant ( same one, second time around) ASYLUM!

Outcome - allowed to stay pending hearings...

Sorry, I was under the impression that, underTrumpian policy, asylum seekers are returned to Mexico to await a decision on their asylum request.  If so, this is in direct violation of US and international law.

Boru

As near as I can tell I'm  not responsible for Trump's antics - any more than half the Border Patrol is responsible for some group of asshat's Facebook posts.

Except when you stereotype - as you are wont to do....
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#40
RE: Dem debates
(June 28, 2019 at 7:29 am)onlinebiker Wrote: The political felatio is unbelievable.
Heisinberg
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkou...e-n2549159


All the canidates answered in the affirmative to the question of free healthcare to people illegally in the country.

When you make it more difficult to deport those who enter the country illegally with kids - or seek asylum with kids - more people bring kids. Kids used to be a rarity. No longer.

Wait till they make it illegal to deport someone " too sick to travel".

Lourdes is going to be sucking hind tit as a tourist destination for the terminally ill.....

Better not get sick. Hospitals will be standing room only.
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