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Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
The same way that phlogiston theory was.

Looking back, now, we can see that it’s proponents were plainly and clearly wrong. This is one of the many benefits of hindsight. Thing is, we have access to tools and data they didn’t, and it’s easy to see why they thought what they did, then.

There were, ofc, people who had insisted it was wrong before it was superseded.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 1:05 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: The same way that phlogiston theory was.

Explain, what is the criteria for being scientifically well-established?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
Google it for yourself.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 1:07 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Google it for yourself.

Yup, I did; nothing comes up as expected. Should I try Bing or Yahoo?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 12:59 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 12:48 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I don't have any hypothesis that evolution via natural selection cannot account for the human eye. Read the OP again ma'am.

Sure you don’t. *wink, nod*


(August 7, 2019 at 12:01 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 11:50 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: So, are you saying theories are hypothesis that graduated to theories because of positive results? If we run the pixie experiment and the results support the hypothesis, it should be promoted to theory? Because if you're not saying that, then I don't see where I was corrected.
It’s weird; you’d think a cog sci student with a special interest in biology, who is here to discuss the nuances of the evolution of the human eye, would have this foundational terminology already under his belt. 🤨



Christards thinks god is the supreme truth.  Any sophistry good enough to lead them to god, must be more than good enough for evaluating much lesser things like facts and any field of science.   He doesn't need no stinking foundation to opine.   He only condescend to pretend to have the foundation so he can bland in with the natives, so to speak.

He thinks he is very cleverly science facing, sort of like black facing.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 1:09 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 1:07 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Google it for yourself.

Yup, I did; nothing comes up as expected. Should I try Bing or Yahoo?

There isn’t any lie too silly for you to tell, is there.

Tell me again that you googled phlogiston theory and nothing came up, lol.

Continuing along, the ideas you’ve been espousing are the basic outlines of the theory that Darwinism superseded, in much the same way that oxygen theory superseded phlogiston theory.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 1:09 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 1:07 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Google it for yourself.

Yup, I did; nothing comes up as expected. Should I try Bing or Yahoo?

If not mistaken, LFC already posted a snippet or two that answers your question.

Otherwise, Wikipedia Scientific theory and you can see the criteria there.

Here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 1:16 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 1:09 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Yup, I did; nothing comes up as expected. Should I try Bing or Yahoo?

If not mistaken, LFC already posted a snippet or two that answers your question.

Otherwise, Wikipedia Scientific theory and you can see the criteria there.

Here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

I did a quick search for "established" in your Wikipedia link. Sadly, it doesn't appear to list the scientific criteria for well-established. Moreover, the page also seems to treat the term well-established as describing some, but not all theories. Which I agree with. Some theories are well established, others are not.

Surely, if well-established isn't just a subjective description of a theory (like good, bad, terrible), criteria must exist between being well-established and not. How would we ever know when something is a theory, is we have no measure of how well-established it is?
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
We actually don’t have to know the difference between a theory and a hypothesis to point out that you can’t manage to get anything right about whichever you want to call it.

Call it a fuckin fleefkarp if you want, won’t alter the observed fact of your vast and persistent ignorance.
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RE: Vision and Evolution (A Critique of Dawkins)
(August 7, 2019 at 1:09 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 7, 2019 at 1:07 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Google it for yourself.

Yup, I did; nothing comes up as expected. Should I try Bing or Yahoo?

You’re an idiot, and a terribly obvious troll.
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