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RE: Proof gun control works
August 20, 2019 at 4:29 pm
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(August 19, 2019 at 6:32 pm)Lek Wrote: If.gum control works, why do we have so many mass shootings with all the gun control we have now vs the 50s and 60s when gun control was pretty nonexistent?
I'm going to say that's a poor point to make due to the absolutely insane increase in gun sales / gun manufacturing. The amount of guns manufactured skyrocketed from 3 million in 1985 to 11 million in 2013. The latest research says there are almost 400 MILLION firearms throughout the U.S. (both legally and illegally owned.) I don't have numbers from the 1950s to compare to, but... I have a suspicion it's less lol.
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RE: Proof gun control works
August 20, 2019 at 4:44 pm
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(August 20, 2019 at 4:29 pm)Aegon Wrote: (August 19, 2019 at 6:32 pm)Lek Wrote: If.gum control works, why do we have so many mass shootings with all the gun control we have now vs the 50s and 60s when gun control was pretty nonexistent?
I'm going to say that's a poor point to make due to the absolutely insane increase in gun sales / gun manufacturing. The amount of guns manufactured skyrocketed from 3 million in 1985 to 11 million in 2013. The latest research says there are almost 400 MILLION firearms throughout the U.S. (both legally and illegally owned.) I don't have numbers from the 1950s to compare to, but... I have a suspicion it's less lol. Yup. There is far more guns now ...
Oddly - there is far less murder.
Think not?
Google "murder rate in us per capita since 1900"
Despite there being far more guns - there are less murders.... Close to half.
And 1/6th since the country began
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RE: Proof gun control works
August 20, 2019 at 4:49 pm
Can’t resistance...
Gum control works...
...just look at Singapore
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RE: Proof gun control works
August 20, 2019 at 4:51 pm
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(August 20, 2019 at 7:07 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 19, 2019 at 6:32 pm)Lek Wrote: If.gum control works, why do we have so many mass shootings with all the gun control we have now vs the 50s and 60s when gun control was pretty nonexistent?
Well, gum control has very little to do with mass shootings.
Boru
You're right there. So is the only option to take away all guns? Okay. I typed "gum". Yuk, yuk.
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RE: Proof gun control works
August 20, 2019 at 4:54 pm
(August 20, 2019 at 4:51 pm)Lek Wrote: (August 20, 2019 at 7:07 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, gum control has very little to do with mass shootings.
Boru
You're right there. So is the only option to take away all guns?
Nope. But I do think you should looking into getting HubbaBubba out of the hands of underage people.
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RE: Proof gun control works
August 20, 2019 at 4:58 pm
(August 20, 2019 at 4:23 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (August 20, 2019 at 1:20 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Guns, ownership and licensing should come under heavy taxation. Just like we do here with guns and tobacco. The NHS services to the ailments caused by those services should be payed for by the users of such things.
Oh wait, there is no NHS in the US. Nevermind.
In the US gun ownership is a RIGHT - not a privilege.
We don't tax rights.
That's the problem. You've made it a 'right'.
And yes, you DO tax rights. Do you pay a tax when you buy a gun or ammunition? The fee for your carry permit IS a tax (don't let anyone tell you different).
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RE: Proof gun control works
August 20, 2019 at 5:00 pm
(August 20, 2019 at 4:51 pm)Lek Wrote: (August 20, 2019 at 7:07 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Well, gum control has very little to do with mass shootings.
Boru
You're right there. So is the only option to take away all guns? Okay. I typed "gum". Yuk, yuk.
Since you've self-corrected, I'll play along.
No, the option to take away all guns isn't even worthy of consideration. I've said many times I don't support banning firearms.
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RE: Proof gun control works
August 20, 2019 at 5:05 pm
(August 20, 2019 at 4:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 20, 2019 at 4:23 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: In the US gun ownership is a RIGHT - not a privilege.
We don't tax rights.
That's the problem. You've made it a 'right'.
And yes, you DO tax rights. Do you pay a tax when you buy a gun or ammunition? The fee for your carry permit IS a tax (don't let anyone tell you different).
Boru
Uhhhhh.. We' ll sorta give that to you...
The official word I got ( shop owner) is the tax is actually on the SALE - not the gun...
And the county says it' s a "processing fee".
The handgun registration however, is free...
Go figure.
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RE: Proof gun control works
August 20, 2019 at 5:09 pm
We don't tax rights? You might want to tell everyone who lived before the 24th amendment that.
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RE: Proof gun control works
August 20, 2019 at 5:18 pm
(August 20, 2019 at 5:05 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (August 20, 2019 at 4:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That's the problem. You've made it a 'right'.
And yes, you DO tax rights. Do you pay a tax when you buy a gun or ammunition? The fee for your carry permit IS a tax (don't let anyone tell you different).
Boru
Uhhhhh.. We' ll sorta give that to you...
The official word I got ( shop owner) is the tax is actually on the SALE - not the gun...
And the county says it' s a "processing fee".
The handgun registration however, is free...
Go figure.
If it quacks like a duck...
Boru
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