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The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 30, 2019 at 9:55 am
was the recommendation to love even your enemies an invention?
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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 30, 2019 at 2:59 pm (This post was last modified: September 30, 2019 at 3:04 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Yes, many times in history.

Quote:Do not return evil to your adversary; requite with kindness the one who does evil to you, maintain justice for your enemy, be friendly to your enemy.
-The advice of an Akkadian father to his son.  approx-2000 BCE

Quote:One should not strike a holy man, nor should a holy man, when struck, give way to anger. Shame on him who strikes a holy man, and more shame on him who gives way to anger.
-Dhammapada approx-300BCE

Add to the above historical demonstrations of the antiquity of the idea and it's multiple independant constructions, every child's concerned mother who ever told them not to hit a bully just because a bully hit you. 

The wisdom sayings of magic man in magic book are lines shoved into a demi gods mouth.
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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 30, 2019 at 3:06 pm
(September 30, 2019 at 9:55 am)Ricardo Wrote: was the recommendation to love even your enemies an invention?

'The New Testament is both good and original.  But what is good is not original and what is original is not good.' - Bertrand Russell

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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 30, 2019 at 3:12 pm (This post was last modified: September 30, 2019 at 3:15 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I think my fav version of that exhortation comes from machiavelli, but I can't recall the exact quote for the life of me.  

Something about not doing every terrible thing in your power to an enemy, because they'll one day be your ally, lol. Combine that with the notion that you should never commit a small injury, and you get a pretty solid bit of advice on not hitting some guy back when he punches you. That would be foolish and impulsive. You wait for years, destroy his entire family and take his lands....but you let him keep his house.

That way you still have something to take from him, and on the other end he can imagine that you at least let him keep his house. The realpolitik of loving thy enemy at work, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 30, 2019 at 3:41 pm
Is there evidence of the existence of the Historical Jesus?
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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 30, 2019 at 3:44 pm
You'd have to be more specific.  Which historical jesus?  With a broad brush, there is no physical or archaeological evidence for any of them, nor are there any writings of any of them.
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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 30, 2019 at 4:47 pm
(September 30, 2019 at 3:41 pm)Ricardo Wrote: Is there evidence of the existence of the Historical Jesus?

No.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
September 30, 2019 at 5:04 pm
(September 30, 2019 at 3:41 pm)Ricardo Wrote: Is there evidence of the existence of the Historical Jesus?

Short answer:  No.

Medium length answer: No, but it doesn't matter all that much.

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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
October 2, 2019 at 3:38 pm
Is Jesus anecdotal evidence?
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RE: The Jesus story has details that is most definitely made up i just realized!!!
October 2, 2019 at 4:15 pm
Is Bill anecdotal evidence?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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