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Damned Jews
#11
RE: Damned Jews
(9th February 2011, 17:59)Minimalist Wrote: ...or nutty Jews!

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,...45,00.html

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Haredi ads: Internet causes cancer

New ultra-Orthodox marketing campaign uses scare tactics to prevent community from Web surfing. 'Internet causes disease, adversity,' Rabbi Shmuel Wosner writes

I seriously doubt that it would become a law against the web surfing: there are israeli news online, jewish forums, jewish sites (e.g. with rabbi commentaries, etc.), which means that many religious jews in Israel can see that web surfing is needed.

Anyway, this is not the only guy to prohibit the internet. There are also protestant people who strictly prohibit internet surfing, religious magazines that prohibit it, etc. and I'm sure these are not the only groups.
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#12
RE: Damned Jews
Glad to see the Jews are catching up to the other sanctimonious bastards when it comes to criminality.


http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_...e-456.html


Quote:A Brooklyn rabbi is under arrest and facing charges of bribery and witness tampering for allegedly paying an individual to accuse another rabbi of sexual abuse.

Sources tell NBC New York that Samuel Kellner was arrested Tuesday night. The Brooklyn district attorney has scheduled a news conference but has declined comment ahead of the announcement.

Kellner is accused of paying a witness to say he was abused by Rabbi Baruch Lebovits, who was sentenced a year ago to 32 years in prison after he was convicted of child molestation.
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#13
RE: Damned Jews
Molestation by priests, preachers, rabbis, non-religious people, little difference. This does not mean that all christians molest, or that all jews molest or that all religious people molest, or that all non-religious people (atheists, deists, agnostics, whatever) molest. It means that no religious system and no religious philosophy and no other philosophy can force people to be "good".
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#14
RE: Damned Jews
Quote:This does not mean that all christians molest, or that all jews molest or that all religious people molest,


However that is not the point. The point is that the ones who did NOT molest knew what was going on and, in far too many cases, not only remained silent but actually facilitated the molesters.

The ones who knew and remained silent are despicable enough. But what about the ones like Herr Von Popenfuhrer himself who moved pervert priests around so they could find new victims?
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#15
RE: Damned Jews
(17th April 2011, 15:54)Zenith Wrote: Molestation by priests, preachers, rabbis, non-religious people, little difference. This does not mean that all christians molest, or that all jews molest or that all religious people molest, or that all non-religious people (atheists, deists, agnostics, whatever) molest. It means that no religious system and no religious philosophy and no other philosophy can force people to be "good".

Your dam right, some people are just born bad by nature. Most people are good, but not every apple in the tree come's out the way you want it. Not every orange is delicious, 1 in a million lemons will be sweet. Idk what else to say lol
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#16
RE: Damned Jews
(17th April 2011, 16:03)JohnDG Wrote:
(17th April 2011, 15:54)Zenith Wrote: Molestation by priests, preachers, rabbis, non-religious people, little difference. This does not mean that all christians molest, or that all jews molest or that all religious people molest, or that all non-religious people (atheists, deists, agnostics, whatever) molest. It means that no religious system and no religious philosophy and no other philosophy can force people to be "good".

Your dam right, some people are just born bad by nature. Most people are good, but not every apple in the tree come's out the way you want it. Not every orange is delicious, 1 in a million lemons will be sweet. Idk what else to say lol


Again, John, if the church had dealt swiftly and harshly with these priests we would not be having this conversation. When a school district out here gets an allegation against a teacher they call the police. When the church gets an allegation they pray to their fucking god....who always seems to tell them to protect the church's money and reputation.

Do you see the difference?

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#17
RE: Damned Jews
(17th April 2011, 16:12)Minimalist Wrote: Again, John, if the church had dealt swiftly and harshly with these priests we would not be having this conversation. When a school district out here gets an allegation against a teacher they call the police. When the church gets an allegation they pray to their fucking god....who always seems to tell them to protect the church's money and reputation.

Do you see the difference?

Minimalist, I think you're not seeing the point: the priests are protecting "the church" (i.e. their church's reputation) by hiding the crimes! The big difference between "school" and "church" is that no school has global power, and the schools do not have a 'close circle' (i.e. as the religions have clergy). A "teacher" is just a teacher, while a "priest" is regarded as a "saint" (that people are afraid to accuse or mistrust) AND with political power in the church - the bishops are higher than priests, archbishops higher than bishops, an entire hierarchy, just like in politics. They just run for titles (which means, glory, money, power) and for money, and bribe those with higher titles to obtain titles, conform to everything for higher titles, etc. "God" is used only to convince their adepts. I doubt that "God" exists for them in other sense. Well, there must be people in this hierarchy that take things seriously as well (there is always a minority, which is different).

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#18
RE: Damned Jews
(17th April 2011, 16:12)Minimalist Wrote: Again, John, if the church had dealt swiftly and harshly with these priests we would not be having this conversation. When a school district out here gets an allegation against a teacher they call the police. When the church gets an allegation they pray to their fucking god....who always seems to tell them to protect the church's money and reputation.

Do you see the difference?

You failed to see the point I was making, you cannot stop somebody who want's to do evil things from doing evil things. No religion can change that, those people will still commit these crimes regardless because it is truely their desire and nobody elses. The church isn't to blame in this case of evil, but they do protect these people which makes them just as bad regardless of their reputation or what they believe in, everyone knows this nobody can do anything about it. Religion follows it's own laws aslong as it has devote followers.

Also think, a teacher is somebody who want's to be around young children all the time. Is there nothing wrong with this idea in general? But who's going to teach the children, themselves? This is something we cannot deny exist and is also something we are all willing to risk when we put our children in school. You don't want to run the risk? TEACH THEM YOURSELF..

Also religion and school have been seperated for how long? The two are not remotely simular.

I don't mean to be agressive (as been called before("childish banter" you started it!)) I just want you to see my points.
Live every day as if already dead, that way you're not disappointed when you are. Big Grin
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#19
RE: Damned Jews
By the way, I've remembered something.

You know, in politics, if a politician is corrupt (and, for instance, he's stolen something), he is not the only one! So, When accused of it, a lot of politicians defend him, calling it a political reason, and that they are "certain" that the man is "innocent", and accusing the accuser of dirty methods of trying to get rid of their enemies. And when he is judged, and found guilty, they call it that the judges were bribed or something, to do unjust things when there was actually no "real"/"good" evidence, and that X political party is the only guilty for that. Others may try to call this politician which was found guilty that "he has mistaken", that he needs to be forgiven, in an attempt to do something, if it's possible, to get that politician out of the dirt. And ALL THIS is because of good reasons: that politician that was accused might say "but I'm not the only one: X did this, Y did that, etc." Also, there are all kinds of political relations and benefits that would all be gone if they would not try their best to defend their 'friend'.

The same in the religious hierarchy: his 'friends' may fear that he tell what they did, if they do not do everything they can to get him out, and there are all kinds of advantages/benefits, relations that would be lost if they would simply leave him.

Also, I've noticed a strange kind of loyalty of the "religious" people: a layman may defend a certain priest that molested a child in order to defend his church! i.e. he would feel that, by condemning that priest, he would betray his own church. i.e. If you believe the Catholic Pope that he is what he claims to be, you cannot condemn his cardinals, because it would sound like "I'm not catholic!" (betraying his own church). I did notice this kind of attitude.
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#20
RE: Damned Jews
(17th April 2011, 17:36)JohnDG Wrote: Also think, a teacher is somebody who want's to be around young children all the time. Is there nothing wrong with this idea in general? But who's going to teach the children, themselves? This is something we cannot deny exist and is also something we are all willing to risk when we put our children in school. You don't want to run the risk? TEACH THEM YOURSELF..

uh.... wtf?

I like being around kids. Young kids even. They're pretty cool. I'd like to help out when I'm older at schools with botany programs with kids. They're usually not as big of assholes as adults, and it's fun to open up people's minds to new things - whatever the age. Kids, being young, are usually more open to this than adults.

So...since the vast majority of teachers seem to also enjoy this, and manage to keep their hands where they belong, I'm not sure what sort of point you're trying to make here. Those of us that like kids are borderline molesters?
PS - plenty of parents molest their children too. Teaching the kids at home to protect them from the risk of other people touching their kids is counter-intuitive.
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