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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 1:49 am
(October 16, 2019 at 11:22 pm)Divinity Wrote: Elizabeth Warren.
Can't stand Tulsi Gabbard, and not a fan of Joe Biden. Gabbard is an Assad-nut who defends Donald Trump at every given chance. I don't trust her on the issues one bit. Biden has no fucking clue what he's doing. He's the John Kerry of the 2020 election. Sure, he'd be better. But he's not really going to inspire me or most other people.
Sorry, if “not trump” doesn’t inspire you, then don’t complain about trump.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 5:25 am
If I truly had to pick one and if my pick mattered at all, I'd have to go with Mr. Biden. Plenty of government experience, well respected on the world stage, and I think he's cleverer than he seems.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 9:23 am
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(October 17, 2019 at 1:49 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Sorry, if “not trump” doesn’t inspire you, then don’t complain about trump.
If "Not Trump" is the best Biden can fucking do, then we are TRULY FUCKED. This is all I fucking hear when it comes to Biden, and guess what? EVERY FUCKING OTHER CANDIDATE ON THE LIST IS "NOT TRUMP" ALSO. "Not Trump" is too low of a bar. We have to do better if we want to beat a FUCKING INCUMBENT WITH A GOOD (even if eventually it'll fail) ECONOMY
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 10:03 am
(October 17, 2019 at 9:23 am)Divinity Wrote: (October 17, 2019 at 1:49 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Sorry, if “not trump” doesn’t inspire you, then don’t complain about trump.
If "Not Trump" is the best Biden can fucking do, then we are TRULY FUCKED. This is all I fucking hear when it comes to Biden, and guess what? EVERY FUCKING OTHER CANDIDATE ON THE LIST IS "NOT TRUMP" ALSO. "Not Trump" is too low of a bar. We have to do better if we want to beat a FUCKING INCUMBENT WITH A GOOD (even if eventually it'll fail) ECONOMY
If your can’t distinguish between “I am so disappointed it is like if we are fucked” from we are truly royally fucked, then don’t complain when you are truly royally fucked.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 10:11 am
(October 17, 2019 at 10:03 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: If your can’t distinguish between “I am so disappointed it is like if we are fucked” from we are truly royally fucked, then don’t complain when you are truly royally fucked.
Real improvement far more often come from avoiding what is known to be bad than getting what is merely thought to be good.
This is some piss poor logic.
By your logic, you'd be fine with President Pence for four years as long as we avoided Donald Trump. Or four years of President Mitch McConnell. They too meet the "Not Trump" standard. And if you're NOT okay with that, then I guess you can't complain about Donald Trump. See how that extends?
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 10:17 am
I am not fine with president pence. But if the choice is between pence and trump, I will not stay home and fail to vote for pence to ensure trump is booted.
Pence will take merely United States to a very despicable place. Trump will likely leave the United States nonexistent or on the verge of civil war for decades.
So there is a moral responsibility to contribute to avoidance of the worse option.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 10:27 am
Warren aligns most closely w/ my stance on various issues.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 10:36 am
(October 17, 2019 at 10:17 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: I am not fine with president pence. But if the choice is between pence and trump, I will not stay home and fail to vote for pence to ensure trump is booted.
Pence will take merely United States to a very despicable place. Trump will likely leave the United States nonexistent or on the verge of civil war for decades.
So there is a moral responsibility to contribute to avoidance of the worse option.
I never said I'd NOT vote for Biden. But I'm not inspired by him. And if I'm not inspired by him, then I have to wonder how likely he is to win. If "He's not Trump!" is the best thing he's got going for him, then Trump is GOING TO WIN. Don't discount the selfishness of people who'll vote for Trump to lower their own taxes, or because they're happy with the economy. Incumbents have a HUGE advantage. Even if they're pieces of literal shit like Trump. Barring a recession before then (and sadly, one is probably coming, but it'll probably be AFTER the election) Trump's got a GOOD CHANCE at winning. Like I'd say 60% chance. If we start treating this like a cakewalk, we're going to lose.
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RE: Who's your favorite Dem candidate?
October 17, 2019 at 11:35 am
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Yeah, I’m going to leave this here for Ceci, so she can see where I’m coming from.
https://ahtribune.com/us/2020-election/3...itics.html
The reason I bring up that she used to be.p a Republican is because if you look a bit more closely into her record, it really shines through. Admittedly, it may be more of an old-school Republican than the current “two notches below Literal Nazis” Republicans, but it’s still there if you look for it.
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