You can't say that anymore.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

One story? Lol.

One story where the “good guys with guns” were part of the security team of the church in question...

Anybody know what the church policy is on packin' heat?

[The Architect Of Fate]

One story? Lol.

One story where the “good guys with guns” were part of the security team of the church in question...

Yeah but he was unpaid so there ...And it occasionally happens elsewhere so it isn't overall a myth apparently.....

[Gawdzilla Sama]

One story where the “good guys with guns” were part of the security team of the church in question...

Yeah but he was unpaid so there ...And it occasionally happens elsewhere so it isn't overall a myth apparently.....

We don't have shootings where there are already people with guns, obviously.

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I just had a giggle picturing a certain forumite standing slump-shouldered as he surveys the smoldering ruins of yet another gotcha thread.

[TaraJo]

And the piddlingstream media is equally accessible these days, but it still doesn't show up very much. I wonder why.

Ever notice these murderous thugs target places where you can't legally carry a gun?

Gee... I wonder why?


How come gun shows don't get targeted?

Yeah, because if a gunman targets a place filled with lots of guns and lots of people who are trained to use those guns, nobody would ever get killed, right?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Ever notice these murderous thugs target places where you can't legally carry a gun?

Citation needed 

Gee... I wonder why?

Citation needed

How come gun shows don't get targeted?

So the argument is that because i certain place isn't shot up that proves something .Starts listing all the places that have no guns were no one's been shot .Another problem with this i assumes the primary motivation is presence of guns ....expect we know that's false.

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Ever notice these murderous thugs target places where you can't legally carry a gun?

Gee... I wonder why?


How come gun shows don't get targeted?

Yeah, because if a gunman targets a place filled with lots of guns and lots of people who are trained to use those guns, nobody would ever get killed, right?

Oh no in gun nut land hat doesn't count because only the armed guards were armed ....oh wait .

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Ever notice these murderous thugs target places where you can't legally carry a gun?

Gee... I wonder why?


How come gun shows don't get targeted?

Yeah, because if a gunman targets a place filled with lots of guns and lots of people who are trained to use those guns, nobody would ever get killed, right?

Oh no in gun nut land hat doesn't count because only the armed guards were armed ....oh wait .

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I guess crazy shooters don't target places with armed guards ....oh wait.

[onlinebiker]

I guess crazy shooters don't target places with armed guards ....oh wail.

Cite cases where they have.

You have ONE example? Maybe two?


Gee - didn't.you say that wasn't enough?

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Here's seven - supporting "the good guy with a gun" scenario.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/i...o-can-you/

Let's see you shown more - where a murdering fuck attacked a place that was known to have armed guards..

(Waiting for the pathetic cry of "that's different!".

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Well, gee, seven out of hundreds. That's conclusive.

[Silver]

The NRA orgasms over stories of how their guns do good in stopping gun crime.

[TaraJo]

The NRA orgasms over stories of how their guns do good in stopping gun crime.

Yeah, as long as their message will result in more gun sales, they don't care if it's true.  

And, yeah, there have been several shootings in Texas.  I mean, there was literally a shooting in an El Paso Walmart, a state that is infamously pro-gun and a store that has been very pro-gun and even sold guns at the time.  But several people still died and no "good guy with a gun" showed up, despite the fact that there was basically nothing stopping them.

We've been told that uniformed police or security would stop shooters, but then when we applied them, a judge specifically ruled that law enforcement isn't obligated to stop the shooter.  

Seems to me that guns are causing a lot more shootings than they're stopping.  The cases where a good guy with a gun stops a shooting are the exception, not the rule; but gun-boner people are prancing around like their rule has been proven.  That kind of thinking is right up there with disregarding the piles of pro-vaccine data out there because you found one or two doctors who say it causes autism.

We hear the NRA members all tell us how much they need their guns to protect themselves from a tyrannical government, but they didn't say anything when Philando Castile was murdered for telling police he had a legal, licensed handgun.  You want me to take you seriously when you talk about needing guns to protect yourselves from government and you're going to need to drop your love of the "thin blue line" and support gun rights for black people.  If anyone is having issues with government right now, I'd say it's hispanic people being sent to concentration camps; should they be able to use guns to protect themselves from ICE?