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#31
RE: why faith fails
January 16, 2020 at 8:59 pm
Whoever sausage a thing?
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RE: why faith fails
January 16, 2020 at 10:04 pm (This post was last modified: January 16, 2020 at 10:04 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Maybe they make sadists prayers.
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RE: why faith fails
January 21, 2020 at 10:56 am
(January 16, 2020 at 7:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:I would say most of you do not even have the faith of a mustard seed left in you given the expenditure of faith you have already demonstrated trying to hide from God.

How much faith does a mustard seed have, exactly?  We've got some mustard seed in the pantry, and it doesn't seem to exhibit a lot of faith one way or the other.

Boru

If you were to quantify faith into a physical shape and size the idea here it all the faith you would need is that much of what a mustard seed represents.

Look at one of your mustard seeds. God promises if you can expend that much faith and seek him out on his terms he will alleviate your doubts. More specifically a mountain of doubt.
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RE: why faith fails
January 21, 2020 at 11:50 am
-and then god fails to deliver.

In reality, god makes no such promise, so that's not really god's problem. You make that promise, it's your problem.
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RE: why faith fails
January 21, 2020 at 12:25 pm
(January 21, 2020 at 11:50 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: -and then god fails to deliver.  

In reality, god makes no such promise, so that's not really god's problem.  You make that promise, it's your problem.

to who? 2.4% of the population of the planet who btw have a resentment/grudge against god anyway?

That's not a failure rate to be ashamed of. that is a failure rate indicative of those who are simply hell bent on disbelief.
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RE: why faith fails
January 21, 2020 at 12:44 pm (This post was last modified: January 21, 2020 at 1:04 pm by Nay_Sayer.)
(January 21, 2020 at 12:25 pm)Drich Wrote:
(January 21, 2020 at 11:50 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: -and then god fails to deliver.  

In reality, god makes no such promise, so that's not really god's problem.  You make that promise, it's your problem.

to who? 2.4% of the population of the planet who btw have a resentment/grudge against god anyway?

That's not a failure rate to be ashamed of. that is a failure rate indicative of those who are simply hell bent on disbelief.

 92.4% of the population of the planet have a resentment/grudge against FSM

That's not a failure rate to be ashamed of, That is a failure rate indicative of those who are simply hell-bent on disbelief.

Thoughts and prayers.  Ramen
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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RE: why faith fails
January 21, 2020 at 12:55 pm (This post was last modified: January 21, 2020 at 12:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I can see why you would imagine that the numbers of people who believe in a god..mostly not your god, have something to say about it's success at delivering tangibles.

....but if we're being honest, with each other or ourselves....god fails to deliver 100% of the time.

-again, though, that's not gods problem, that's yours. He didn't promise anybody shit.
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RE: why faith fails
January 21, 2020 at 1:07 pm
(January 21, 2020 at 12:25 pm)Drich Wrote: to who? 2.4% of the population of the planet who btw have a resentment/grudge against god anyway?
God, which god?

Norse god(s)?
Greek god(s)?
Hindu god(s)?
Chatolic god?
Cathars god?
Protestant god?
Baptist god?
Anabaptist god?
Arian god?

Which one? I definitely dont have resentments against certain greek god(esses). Blush
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RE: why faith fails
January 22, 2020 at 12:06 pm
(January 21, 2020 at 12:25 pm)Drich Wrote:
(January 21, 2020 at 11:50 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: -and then god fails to deliver.  

In reality, god makes no such promise, so that's not really god's problem.  You make that promise, it's your problem.

to who? 2.4% of the population of the planet who btw have a resentment/grudge against god anyway?

That's not a failure rate to be ashamed of. that is a failure rate indicative of those who are simply hell bent on disbelief.

That's a failure rate comparable to what you'd get if you prayed to a teddy bear.
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RE: why faith fails
January 22, 2020 at 12:09 pm
(January 21, 2020 at 10:56 am)Drich Wrote:
(January 16, 2020 at 7:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How much faith does a mustard seed have, exactly?  We've got some mustard seed in the pantry, and it doesn't seem to exhibit a lot of faith one way or the other.

Boru

If you were to quantify faith into a physical shape and size the idea here it all the faith you would need is that much of what a mustard seed represents.

Look at one of your mustard seeds. God promises if you can expend that much faith and seek him out on his terms he will alleviate your doubts. More specifically a mountain of doubt.

But the verse about the mustard seed isn't (specifically) about faith.  It's about the growth of the Church, for which faith isn't necessary.

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