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By chance?
#51
RE: By chance?
(January 20, 2020 at 12:20 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Wow you fool yourselves continuously by pretending that evolution is not random. That’s rich!
Without chance mutations, natural selection is totally meaningless. Chance is the engine and my how lucky mammals have been and all by chance, just like the butterfly w owls eyes!
And I’m the misguided fool?

Yes, you are the misguided fool. ‘Chance’, in the form of mutations isn’t the engine, it’s the fuel.  Selection is the engine.

You’re correct in saying that without chance mutations, selection is meaningless. This is because there would be nothing to select for. Selection is the method by which favourable mutations are preserved and inimical ones are weeded out. And THAT is what makes natural selection a non-random process.

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#52
RE: By chance?
Quote:Wow you fool yourselves continuously by pretending that evolution is not random. That’s rich!
Without chance mutations, natural selection is totally meaningless. Chance is the engine and my how lucky mammals have been and all by chance, just like the butterfly w owls eyes!
And I’m the misguided fool?
1.It's not no matter how much you repeat it 

2.You have already admitted your whole argument is a fallacy .So you already lost.

3.Selection isn't meaningless 

4.Yes you are a misguided fool who relies on logical fallacies

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#53
RE: By chance?
(January 18, 2020 at 1:45 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Since atheists believe in no God, what choice do you have but to buy into evolution? Duh.

As far as living creation coming into existence, EVOLUTION it’s ALL CHANCE mutations, the engine of evolution
Amusing, Yukon. You are deploying a false dichotomy and you seem unaware that you are doing it.

Evolution is not chance. You are too thick to work that out.
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#54
RE: By chance?
(January 20, 2020 at 12:20 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Wow you fool yourselves continuously by pretending that evolution is not random. That’s rich!
Without chance mutations, natural selection is totally meaningless. Chance is the engine and my how lucky mammals have been and all by chance, just like the butterfly w owls eyes!
And I’m the misguided fool?

Yeah, just another creationist claiming to be able to overturn all of observed biological science, then demonstrates he has no clue about what he's talking about.

Nothing more to see here...

Move along...

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#55
RE: By chance?
(January 20, 2020 at 2:42 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(January 20, 2020 at 12:20 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Wow you fool yourselves continuously by pretending that evolution is not random. That’s rich!
Without chance mutations, natural selection is totally meaningless. Chance is the engine and my how lucky mammals have been and all by chance, just like the butterfly w owls eyes!
And I’m the misguided fool?

Yeah, just another creationist claiming to be able to overturn all of observed biological science, then demonstrates he has no clue about what he's talking about.

Nothing more to see here...

Move along...
Hang on, gotta evolve feet first.
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#56
RE: By chance?
Evolution is overturned. I’m still going out for a curry and an atheist.
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#57
RE: By chance?
It's funny how people think volcanology is the study of volcanoes, when it is actually a super-duper-ultra-mega-top-secret government plot to hybridize the green blood of the Spocks with human DNA to create emotionless super soldiers.
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#58
RE: By chance?
(January 20, 2020 at 2:42 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(January 20, 2020 at 12:20 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Wow you fool yourselves continuously by pretending that evolution is not random. That’s rich!
Without chance mutations, natural selection is totally meaningless. Chance is the engine and my how lucky mammals have been and all by chance, just like the butterfly w owls eyes!
And I’m the misguided fool?

Yeah, just another creationist claiming to be able to overturn all of observed biological science, then demonstrates he has no clue about what he's talking about.

Nothing more to see here...

Move along...

In addition, even if evolution was overturned tomorrow, and everything that was thought to be known about evolutionary biology, needed to be thrown out, that would NOT get us one step closer to providing evidence for a god or gods being responsible for the diversity of life. Or even the origin of life, for that matter.

Creationists have a hard time understanding this simple point.

Your hypothesis has to be supported with demonstrable and falsifiable evidence, on its own. No amount of your argument from ignorance and argument from personal incredulity fallacies you post will ever get to, "and therefore god".

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#59
RE: By chance?
(January 20, 2020 at 12:20 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Wow you fool yourselves continuously by pretending that evolution is not random.

Mutation is random. Evolution is not. Learn about the guiding process that is natural selection before yapping.

Quote:And I’m the misguided fool?

You need ask after that masterful demonstration?

@Yukon_Jack Explain the penguin. Did some flightless bird tup god's mom so that he cursed them to dwell in a frozen hell? Or are we dealing with the sort of mentally deficient designer that builds a submarine starting with an aircraft chassis?
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#60
RE: By chance?
(January 17, 2020 at 12:17 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:
(January 16, 2020 at 10:58 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Wow, to think you digested all that and still think it happened by chance, tells me you will fall for anything.
(January 16, 2020 at 8:31 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: ...Sure it's an argument from incredulity...

(January 20, 2020 at 12:20 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Wow you fool yourselves continuously by pretending that evolution is not random. That’s rich!
Without chance mutations, natural selection is totally meaningless. Chance is the engine and my how lucky mammals have been and all by chance, just like the butterfly w owls eyes!
And I’m the misguided fool?

There really isn't much more to read, mate...

Posting your own admission for you again, Yukon_jack.

Y'know, in case you missed it the second time.

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