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Poll: What should be the law on abortion?
This poll is closed.
All abortion illegal
6.06%
2 6.06%
Abortion legal up to 12 weeks
12.12%
4 12.12%
Abortion legal up to 26 week
45.45%
15 45.45%
Abortion legal up to birth
24.24%
8 24.24%
After birth abortion legal
12.12%
4 12.12%
Total 33 vote(s) 100%
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Abortion poll
#51
RE: Abortion poll
(February 26, 2020 at 2:59 pm)Agnostico Wrote:
(February 26, 2020 at 2:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Deuteronomy 21: 18-21

'If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.”  Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.'

Boru

Ok. And?

You asked to be referred to where it says that disobedient children should be killed.  Just trying to help.

Boru
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#52
RE: Abortion poll
(February 26, 2020 at 1:13 pm)Agnostico Wrote:
(February 26, 2020 at 11:51 am)Nomad Wrote: Why use it then?  You see, I know you're an anti-abortionist despite your myriad protests.  You fall into the derogatory language and lies.  So don't complain to me when I point out your own faults.

I used it cos I thought some people might pick it... Which they did. Im not complaining, just identifying your hypocrisy. And lies now as well

U have no evidence of me being an anti-abortionist, lying or using derogatory language. False claims. Unfounded

(February 26, 2020 at 12:06 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Your hypocrisy has been exposed.

You simply do not care about the child post partum.

Your magic book orders killing of children up to any age for disobedience.

Why is that?

Im not a Christian but I do refer to its teachings. Refer me to where u think it says that.
Unlike you, it appears that I have read the risible tome several times and you have not read it at all.

So be it.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

It is not my fault that you have not actually read what your magic book actually says. It is nobodies fault but yours.

I, and most here have read it once or more. And we have concluded that it is total BS superstitious nonsense.

Presumably, that will start with the inevitable excuse that "that is the old testament and does not count".  Which we can demolish in short order.

Feel free, this particular rodeo is not new to me.

And to pre-empt your inevitable Koran reference. Guess what? We have read that too. And the hadiths. And all of it is superstitious crap. 

So feel free to have forth bearing in mind that we have all been there and done that already.
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#53
RE: Abortion poll
(February 26, 2020 at 4:27 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(February 26, 2020 at 1:13 pm)Agnostico Wrote: I used it cos I thought some people might pick it... Which they did. Im not complaining, just identifying your hypocrisy. And lies now as well

U have no evidence of me being an anti-abortionist, lying or using derogatory language. False claims. Unfounded


Im not a Christian but I do refer to its teachings. Refer me to where u think it says that.
Unlike you, it appears that I have read the risible tome several times and you have not read it at all.

So be it.
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

It is not my fault that you have not actually read what your magic book actually says. It is nobodies fault but yours.

I, and most here have read it once or more. And we have concluded that it is total BS superstitious nonsense.

Presumably, that will start with the inevitable excuse that "that is the old testament and does not count".  Which we can demolish in short order.

Feel free, this particular rodeo is not new to me.

And to pre-empt your inevitable Koran reference. Guess what? We have read that too. And the hadiths. And all of it is superstitious crap. 

So feel free to have forth bearing in mind that we have all been there and done that already.

Your paranoia is unfounded. 
I just said i refer to it's teachings. U know it better than i do. Ur an under cover Catholic mate... Hilarious

If u could present evidence that shows im a Christian then u would have some merit. 
As it stands ur only going off your feelings. And your feelings betray u, exposing u for a fool, driven by hatred... Tut Tut
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#54
RE: Abortion poll
(February 26, 2020 at 9:44 am)Agnostico Wrote:
SUNGULA Wrote:Nope only your flawed thinking

Uv been exposed already long time ago
Only in the dream land you live in buddy

Quote:Your paranoia is unfounded. 
It's no paranoia if it's true

Quote:I just said i refer to it's teachings. U know it better than i do. Ur an under cover Catholic mate... [Image: hilarious.gif]
And your an open clown 


Quote:If u could present evidence that shows im a Christian then u would have some merit. 
I already does 


Quote:As it stands ur only going off your feelings.

Projection


Quote: And your feelings betray u, exposing u for a fool, driven by hatred... [Image: tut-tut.gif]
Nah your a deluded fool driven by whatever defect you have
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#55
RE: Abortion poll
(February 26, 2020 at 6:15 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
(February 26, 2020 at 9:44 am)Agnostico Wrote: Uv been exposed already long time ago
Only in the dream land you live in buddy

Quote:Your paranoia is unfounded. 
It's no paranoia if it's true

Quote:I just said i refer to it's teachings. U know it better than i do. Ur an under cover Catholic mate... [Image: hilarious.gif]
And your an open clown 


Quote:If u could present evidence that shows im a Christian then u would have some merit. 
I already does 


Quote:As it stands ur only going off your feelings.

Projection


Quote: And your feelings betray u, exposing u for a fool, driven by hatred... [Image: tut-tut.gif]
Nah your a deluded fool driven by whatever defect you have

Whah  Whah  Whah... Middle Finer
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#56
RE: Abortion poll
(February 26, 2020 at 7:37 pm)Agnostico Wrote:
(February 26, 2020 at 6:15 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Only in the dream land you live in buddy

It's no paranoia if it's true

And your an open clown 


I already does 



Projection


Nah your a deluded fool driven by whatever defect you have

Whah  Whah  Whah... Middle Finer
Defect confirmed Wacky Wacky Wacky
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#57
RE: Abortion poll
(February 20, 2020 at 4:07 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: There is no such thing as abortion after birth you nitwit.

I think he / she want to speak about the possibility to kill the child between some seconds or minutes after the birth.
Abortion is not the right word for this situation because an abortion can only be done before the birth accorded to the definition of this word but we understand easily what it does means in this context.
I have no problem with using words in a figurative way.

I don't know any places of the world that legalized the killing of an infant after his birth.

If in USA a state legislature , territory legislature or D.C legislature (Federal congress can vetoes permanent bill from Council of the District of Columbia) legalize this kind of infanticide. Would it be a violation of American Constitution or / and another piece of federal legislation ?



If a state member of Council of Europe (CoE) legalize that. Would it be a violation of "Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms" nicknamed "European Convention on Human Rights".

All countries members of European Union are members of this organization but not all members of CoE are members of EU.
All members of European Economic Area (EEA) are members of this council.
EEA are 27 countries of EU more Island , Liechtenstein and Norway. It is an agreement between EU and these three countries.
IS , LI and NO are also members of European Freed Trade Association (EFTA) like Switzerland but unlike CH they are members of EEA.
States parties to EFTA are members of EEA except Swiss Confederation. EFTA is an economic union between these four countries and EU.
There are states that are neither members of EU , EEA or EFTA members of CoE like Andorra , Armenia , Montenegro (One of the six candidates to join EU) , UK , Ukraine etc...


An Euler diagram to resume what I said with more details : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:S...ean_Bodies

Go on Wikipedia if you want to know more about COE (Appeared in 1949) , EFTA (Born in 1960) , EU (The agreement to create it was ratified in 1992 but it is in force since 1993) , EEA (Appeared in 1994 but the agreement was ratified in 1992).
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#58
RE: Abortion poll
(February 26, 2020 at 11:08 pm)viocjit Wrote:
(February 20, 2020 at 4:07 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: There is no such thing as abortion after birth you nitwit.

I think he / she want to speak about the possibility to kill the child between some seconds or minutes after the birth.
Abortion is not the right word for this situation because an abortion can only be done before the birth accorded to the definition of this word but we understand easily what is does means in this context.
I have no problem with using words in a figurative way.

I don't know any places of the world that legalized the killing of an infant after his birth.

If in USA a state legislature , territory legislature or D.C legislature (Federal congress can vetoes permanent bill from Council of the District of Columbia) legalize this kind of infanticide. Would it be a violation of American Constitution or / and another piece of federal legislation ?



If a state member of Council of Europe (CoE) legalize that. Would it be a violation of "Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms" nicknamed "European Convention on Human Rights".

All countries members of European Union are members of this organization but not all members of CoE are members of EU.
All members of European Economic Area (EEA) are members of this council.
EEA are 27 countries of EU more Island , Liechtenstein and Norway. It is an agreement between EU and these three countries.
IS , LI and NO are also members of European Freed Trade Association (EFTA) like Switzerland but unlike CH they are members of EEA.
States parties to EFTA are members of EEA except Swiss Confederation. EFTA is an economic union between these four countries and EU.
There are states that are neither members of EU , EEA or EFTA members of CoE like Andorra , Armenia , Montenegro (One of the six candidates to join EU) , UK , Ukraine etc...


An Euler diagram to resume what I said with more details : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:S...ean_Bodies

Go on Wikipedia if you want to know more about COE (Appeared in 1949) , EFTA (Born in 1960) , EU (The agreement to create it was ratified in 1992 but it is in force since 1993) , EEA (Appeared in 1994 but the agreement was ratified in 1992).

Thanks mate... Much appreciated
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#59
RE: Abortion poll
"After birth abortion" is already legal in europe, just as it is in the us. It violates no constitutional rights or human rights conventions.
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#60
RE: Abortion poll
(February 26, 2020 at 2:59 pm)Agnostico Wrote:
(February 26, 2020 at 2:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Deuteronomy 21: 18-21

'If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.”  Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.'

Boru

Ok. And?

You forgot you asked for less than two hours before you posted this? You okay, man?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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