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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
March 5, 2020 at 9:53 pm
Still not seeing The Shitter on that list.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
March 5, 2020 at 9:55 pm
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Still stuck in the material world I see.
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
March 5, 2020 at 11:36 pm
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(March 5, 2020 at 8:20 pm)unityconversation Wrote: Oh, if you ask me I think that it's going well. What, you think that I've come here to try and convert you all? Then you've basically misunderstood why I came here.
It's impossible to covert someone, the conversion happens only between that person and God.
I'm just here to simply try and answer the questions that comes my way. I understand that this is mainly and atheist site and will fiercely disagree with me. But here's the thing, it doesn't matter, I'm not on a mission to change anyone's mind. I just simply came here to share my views and chitchat among other human beings.
Humans don't imagine God, we display God. Everything that's around us that the human being has created is an example of the divine power that only the human being has.
The human being is the greatest ambassador of God to the physical / animal world.
And I forgot to mention you're right, you are a god to your dog, for the simple fact that he is a dog. We are all gods and goddesses compared to the animal.
my bold 1: If that is true then what are you here babbling about. God would just convert us, you are not necessary.
my bold 2: I don't remember me asking questions. And you only came here to "share" one view. Your god must be OK with lying and/or manipulation.
my bold 3: Humans create death and destruction. Stop being a simpleton.
I read your list that came after. Wonderful example of religious programming babble. I notice that you didn't include murderer, pedophile or psychopath and ambassador traits.
If your god is more that a fantasy concept of the human mind then time to show me something that is valid, that exists outside the mind. You've already stated that god's exist in dogs minds so gods must not be as special as you would like us to believe.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
March 5, 2020 at 11:50 pm
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(March 5, 2020 at 9:55 pm)unityconversation Wrote: Still stuck in the material world I see.
Sure, pretty much categorically. You seen any exits lately?
You'll have to forgive me for taking sycophants descriptions of what might lie behind a door they can't find or show with a grain of salt.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
March 5, 2020 at 11:55 pm
(March 5, 2020 at 11:36 pm)brewer Wrote: (March 5, 2020 at 8:20 pm)unityconversation Wrote: Oh, if you ask me I think that it's going well. What, you think that I've come here to try and convert you all? Then you've basically misunderstood why I came here.
It's impossible to covert someone, the conversion happens only between that person and God.
I'm just here to simply try and answer the questions that comes my way. I understand that this is mainly and atheist site and will fiercely disagree with me. But here's the thing, it doesn't matter, I'm not on a mission to change anyone's mind. I just simply came here to share my views and chitchat among other human beings.
Humans don't imagine God, we display God. Everything that's around us that the human being has created is an example of the divine power that only the human being has.
The human being is the greatest ambassador of God to the physical / animal world.
And I forgot to mention you're right, you are a god to your dog, for the simple fact that he is a dog. We are all gods and goddesses compared to the animal.
my bold 1: If that is true then what are you here babbling about. God would just convert us, you are not necessary.
my bold 2: I don't remember me asking questions. And you only came here to "share" one view. Your god must be OK with lying and/or manipulation.
my bold 3: Humans create death and destruction. Stop being a simpleton.
I read your list that came after. Wonderful example of religious programming babble. I notice that you didn't include murderer, pedophile or psychopath and ambassador traits.
1. I said the conversation is between the person and God. I never said the person will lose free will / choice. It's a process if independent investigation for ones self. Your still trying to look for God physically which is a mistake.
2. I wasn't talking about you in particular. I was talking about the forum in general. And why would you call me a liar?
3. Human don't create death, that comes automatically.
Let me ask you something:
Can the animal invent things?
Can the animal create develop highly advanced technology?
Can the animal build a city?
Can the animal build an entire state?
Can the animal build whole countries and entire civilizations?
How about this one for you: Can the animal go into orbit/space travel?
All of those things are manifestations of the divine reality that only the human being has.
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
March 6, 2020 at 12:23 am
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(March 5, 2020 at 4:58 pm)unityconversation Wrote: The good human qualities are things like:
Integrity
Courageousness
Honesty
Generosity
Loyalty
Perseverance
Respectfulness
Politeness
Responsibility
Kindness
Humility
Lovingness
Compassion
Optimism
Fairness
Reliability
Forgiveness
Conscientiousness
Authenticity
Self-discipline
And yet dogs are much better in all of them than humans.
So did you learn your religion from a dog?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
March 6, 2020 at 12:27 am
(March 5, 2020 at 11:55 pm)unityconversation Wrote: 1. I said the conversation is between the person and God. I never said the person will lose free will / choice. It's a process if independent investigation for ones self. Your still trying to look for God physically which is a mistake.
2. I wasn't talking about you in particular. I was talking about the forum in general. And why would you call me a liar?
3. Human don't create death, that comes automatically.
Let me ask you something:
Can the animal invent things?
Can the animal create develop highly advanced technology?
Can the animal build a city?
Can the animal build an entire state?
Can the animal build whole countries and entire civilizations?
How about this one for you: Can the animal go into orbit/space travel?
All of those things are manifestations of the divine reality that only the human being has.
Response to 1: Your god and me, you are not necessary. Stop preaching.
Response to 2: I call you a liar because your original post didn't say "I'm this religion and here to answer questions, please ask me". The OP stated religious beliefs. Do I need to copy/paste?
Response to 3: Nice non-responsive dodge.
On to the questions:
Chimps and birds invent tools.
I don't have an animal example of technology. Have you ever thought that they don't find it necessary? To bad they can't invent killing machines, right?
Ants and bees build cities for themselves all of the time.
Apes build social states/civilizations. So do insects. They even go to war.
Yes, animals can and have gone into space. (oops, maybe you should be more careful with your questions)
You were mistaken on all of the questions positions but one. Better that you don't play this childish game. And even it I answered no to all of the questions I would not consider that a valid argument for your religion or god. Bottom line, you don't get to argue a god into existence, and that wasn't even a good argument.
Your god is a figment of the human imagination. One that you probably wouldn't have come up with on your own, it's the result of religious programming you've received.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
March 6, 2020 at 12:33 am
(March 6, 2020 at 12:23 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (March 5, 2020 at 4:58 pm)unityconversation Wrote: The good human qualities are things like:
Integrity
Courageousness
Honesty
Generosity
Loyalty
Perseverance
Respectfulness
Politeness
Responsibility
Kindness
Humility
Lovingness
Compassion
Optimism
Fairness
Reliability
Forgiveness
Conscientiousness
Authenticity
Self-discipline
And yet dogs are much better in all of them than humans.
So did you learn your religion from a dog?
Oh really.
I'll just say this, humans teach and train dogs all the time, but dogs could never teach and train a human.
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
March 6, 2020 at 12:34 am
(March 5, 2020 at 9:55 pm)unityconversation Wrote: Still stuck in the material world I see.
What else is there, and how do you know?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
March 6, 2020 at 12:36 am
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(March 5, 2020 at 11:55 pm)unityconversation Wrote: Let me ask you something:
Can the animal invent things?
Can the animal create develop highly advanced technology?
Can the animal build a city?
Can the animal build an entire state?
Can the animal build whole countries and entire civilizations?
How about this one for you: Can the animal go into orbit/space travel?
All of those things are manifestations of the divine reality that only the human being has. The answer is yes to all of the above..but I don't know why it would matter, since humans aren't less awesome just because animals can do things. What any of that has to do with the "divine"...is anyone's guess.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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