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[Paleophyte]

Your fairytale agrees with the mythology you grew up in. Underwhelming.

korean buddhist that is what i grew up with..

Then was sent to the parking lot of a church to play in a korean only church. Then fell in with my dad as a
'spiritualist' Then atheist.

why not ask where and how i grew up rather than assume you have it all figured out.

Because I read what you wrote:

My mom had just returned to Korea for a month long visit and my Father is a strong willed atheist who does not agree with our "religious" practices. So when she left so too did my shield from him. (I was about 17 or 18) long story short, My church going sister and I were kicked out of the house and we were staying with members of the church...

Perhaps you were unclear but it sounds very much like your experience aligns entirely with your existing beliefs.

that's right you people don't/cant think for yourselves. you only know how to repeat the arguments of others and if you were to ask question the parameters would change too much and you would not know how to modify the argument. so you assume i must be a life long christian. nupe. proud atheist and did a way better job than most of you. loved to break a christian down and make them cry. or force them to give up or better yet curse me out.

Or because we can read.

if it is all the same old stuff. then you should be able to subjectively address each and every point i make line by line

I did. You just can't accept where that leads. I'll summarize for you. Nowhere in your story do you observe anything supernatural, much less divine. You didn't see him appear, you didn't see him disappear. You made a bunch of unfounded assumptions based on a conclusion that you want to reach. You started with a conclusion and fitted the facts to it. You have no evidence that your visitor wasn't an agent of the Devil, a prospect that I view as only slightly more absurd than an angel. Your story is no more original than millions of others that all contradict it.

[SometimesFactsAreUnpopular]

What is the purpose of this angel story besides the possibility of it being good fiction?

[Paleophyte]

What is the purpose of this angel story besides the possibility of it being good fiction?

Being bad fiction.

[Drich]

What is the purpose of this angel story besides the possibility of it being good fiction?

It is what god offers all of us to one degree or another. I am not special I do not get to see an angel because i am a moses or abraham. I am just a member of the church who cash in on God's promise to be there for us if we seek him out on his terms.

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Still trying hard to convince people that you see shit, still not understanding why you seeing shit is a hilariously poor hill to die on.

again it is not about me seeing it. it is a lesson on how you can see it/what could be instore for yourself.

[Athene]

You consulted a self-proclaimed psychic, yet somehow have managed to convince yourself that that wasn't an act of divination?

Bad news, buddy....
You're going to Hell.

Lol!

[Drich]

korean buddhist that is what i grew up with..

grew up with from birth to maybe 8 or 9
Dad demanded a change, as he got it in his mind this was a kin to devil worship. (grandmother moved in set up a shrine in the garage and he lost his mind)

Then was sent to the parking lot of a church to play in a korean only church. Then fell in with my dad as a
'spiritualist' Then atheist.[/quote]He grew up baptist and told my mom if she needed to pray pray to God. He went to his girlfriend's house on sunday and we went with her. They/baptist koreans did not all 'sickies'/mix race children in the church we waited out side. (they eventually put in a play ground for the korean kids. we were allowed to play when everyone was in side then went the korean kids came out we had to play in the parking lot.

Because I read what you wrote:

My mom had just returned to Korea for a month long visit and my Father is a strong willed atheist who does not agree with our "religious" practices. So when she left so too did my shield from him. (I was about 17 or 18) long story short, My church going sister and I were kicked out of the house and we were staying with members of the church... was about 20 at this point did you not also read i was driving my own car?

Perhaps you were unclear but it sounds very much like your experience aligns entirely with your existing beliefs.
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because you assume too much.
I had no idea what an angel was or did outside of the typical artwork depictions in the RC church. I assumed they all had wings and you got a garduianangel if you were special. nothing i believe about angels was true before this experience. it was not till long after did i begin to fully understand how angels worked in the past and how this experience aligned with other bible stories.

that's right you people don't/cant think for yourselves. you only know how to repeat the arguments of others and if you were to ask question the parameters would change too much and you would not know how to modify the argument. so you assume i must be a life long christian. nupe. proud atheist and did a way better job than most of you. loved to break a christian down and make them cry. or force them to give up or better yet curse me out.

Or because we can read.
[/quote] and assume too much based on pre existing biases.

if it is all the same old stuff. then you should be able to subjectively address each and every point i make line by line

I did.

what you did was show me your bias. you did not address the points i made, but your spin on the points i made.

You just can't accept where that leads.

were it leads is me experiencing a situation undefined previously but coinsides with scripture.

I'll summarize for you. Nowhere in your story do you observe anything supernatural, much less divine.

I saw a man appear from no where, and disappear. i said two words to this man and he gave me my past (prayers i said in my head when or under duress) recounted a traumatic experience from my pov (my parents have their own 3rd hand account) was told of the current situation. he knew where my mother was and what was wrong with my father (in a critical way he himself would never admit to) what i should do to fix, and it worked. my immediate future, my love life, and my future now.. i am living out what i was told to expect.

You didn't see him appear,

exactly! he was just there. You are foolishly assuming there is a 10 second sci fi beam in process. I was in an empty lot and from a seat position to a standing position the man appeared in side my personal space. not possible in any circumstance unless you eyesight is compromised. most people have a 6 to 10ft awareness. even when occupied. you know if someone is there and when they are not. this man had a single point of ingresse to stand before me the way he did. and there was no one there. this was one of those stores you did not go to if it had several people standing outside.

you didn't see him disappear.

which again if you get past the mental block of needing a time to materialize and dematerialize as if they were using a star trek transporter, this statement only boosts my case. as this man could not cover the distances in the alloted disappearing time.

You made a bunch of unfounded assumptions based on a conclusion that you want to reach. You started with a conclusion and fitted the facts to it. You have no evidence that your visitor wasn't an agent of the Devil,

content sport. I keep telling you guys content separates an angel of the lord from an angel of satan. This one promoted alife in service to god (to speak and help people see the truth all across the world, giving people chances people who have fallen through the cracks that one last chance i myself wanted after my judgement)

a prospect that I view as only slightly more absurd than an angel. Your story is no more original than millions of others that all contradict it.

but dummy, and i say dummy with a open heart... i keep telling you this was God speaking to me, something he offers to everyone of you as well. Are you telling me if God sent an angel to you to sit and speak with you to tell you of your past present and future and offer things only you and God could know you would ignore this gift?

that is what you are doing when you say this was MY story... I tell you my story so you can go and claim yours!

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What is the purpose of this angel story besides the possibility of it being good fiction?

I even say it in the video.

I am not special. this is the lengths God is willing to go for all of us. If we seek him on his terms and not our own.

This is my version of your own experience.

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You consulted a self-proclaimed psychic, yet somehow have managed to convince yourself that that wasn't an act of divination?

Bad news, buddy....
You're going to Hell.

Lol!

again, then i did not understand how angels worked. to me they were all winged beings. 2/3 through the ride i came to understand what this being was, and again with out a word said i thought this must be my guardian angel. He stop.. mid sentence shook his head in affirmation and continued on. It was not until that moment that i understood the difference in religious art and How God is actually at work in this world.

If dude started with im an angel i might have told him to get out and fly himself where he needed to be. which is probably what he said very specifically I'm what YOU'D Call a psychic. because he could read minds and tell the future. to me 2/3 of that ride he was a psychic

This single event had me question all my religious beliefs read the bible and redefine everything.

[Paleophyte]

I'll summarize for you. Nowhere in your story do you observe anything supernatural, much less divine.

I saw a man appear from no where, and disappear.

No, you didn't. By your own words.

You opened your car door and somebody was standing there. You never saw him appear.

He closed your car door and after a couple of seconds when you weren't looking at him you didn't see him. At no point do you see him disappear.

You're retrofitting supernatural events into your story.

You didn't see him appear,

exactly! he was just there. You are foolishly assuming there is a 10 second sci fi beam in process.

Priceless coming from somebody tasking me for making assumptions. I said that you didn't see him appear. Nothing about duration or process. I need no more special effects than empty space one instant and occupied space the next. You didn't observe that during either his appearance or departure. He doesn't blink in or out of existence. He uses the car door in both cases. Your failure to determine where he came from or went to does not a miracle make.

[The Grand Nudger]

If seeing a hobo turned Drich into what we have before us..imagine what he'd be capable of if he saw a supernatural being.

[Drich]

I saw a man appear from no where, and disappear.

No, you didn't. By your own words.

no again you are confusing the term materialize with appear from no where.

You again can not seem to separate the idea of appearing out of no where with a 'beaming in process.' The lot was empty it turned to open the door no one i set feet on the ground, no one i bent my head to clear the roof of the truck, dude was less than three feet from me as i stood up.

That is appearing out of no where. there is nothing to witness aside from what i just described. You are looking for a process of materialization you are asking did i witness him "beam in." this assumption is based on your understanding sci-fi.

You opened your car door and somebody was standing there. You never saw him appear.

again drove in. no one. park the car. no one. turned to open the door no one set foot outside now facing the direction where he would have stood, no one. dipped my head/did not close my eyes still facing the direction he appeared in, still no one. standing up no one... standing up right dude 3 ft from me.
that is appearing out of nowhere sport. To 'see him appear' is again a presumption there is something to see. most likely your assumption based off star trek.

There was nothing till there was. try and get that through your head. i saw nothing else because there was nothing else.

He closed your car door and after a couple of seconds when you weren't looking at him you didn't see him. At no point do you see him disappear.

again watch the video i repeated the maneuver. it took 2 seconds while narrating it , it took only a fraction of a second while this guy was out of my line of sight. again i did a uturn in a drive way 100 yards from the store. he was in my veiw 3/4 of the time. in a split second we was again gone. just like he appeared. if one appears with out a materialization process then one can assume to dematerialize takes no greater effort.

You're retrofitting supernatural events into your story.

I posted this story here almost 8 or 9 years ago now. and 15 years ago at CF, and now we have the video. nothing has changed.
Aside from waiting 4 mins at the light everything was done in a single shot. Meaning the whole story was done from memory and visual ques, and it includes everything i wrote.

exactly! he was just there. You are foolishly assuming there is a 10 second sci fi beam in process.

Priceless coming from somebody tasking me for making assumptions. I said that you didn't see him appear. Nothing about duration or process. I need no more special effects than empty space one instant and occupied space the next. You didn't observe that during either his appearance or departure. He doesn't blink in or out of existence. He uses the car door in both cases. Your failure to determine where he came from or went to does not a miracle make.

again stupid, this story is not meant to convince you. It is what God did to convince me, and an example of the lengths he will also go for you if you seek him on his terms.

Now i know i have asked you if these things happened to you but fill in your life's details or better yet God sends an angel to help you out of a situation you yourself know no one can save you from. would it change the way you think?

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If seeing a hobo turned Drich into what we have before us..imagine what he'd be capable of if he saw a supernatural being.

hell and the hobo. and the predictions of the future. and things like 25K from a complete stranger to open my own business, also 20+ years of money when we need it to run the business. national and international business partners and dealings, that are well beyond any schooling or experience says i deserve to have.. having a nationally recognised for setting and inventing standards and practices that the whole industry adopts. plus two patents out of no where. (no schooling and no experience as these two items were literally invented by me.) plus the following big cash out and move into 50K sq ft A/C facility, to build and sell some of the other stuff i have designed and assembled. and now, post covid the continued ability to sustain the shop with no new work coming in.

[Paleophyte]

No, you didn't. By your own words.

no again you are confusing the term materialize with appear from no where.

I already addressed this. Either your reading comprehension is rubbish or you're being deliberately obtuse.

You opened your car door and somebody was standing there. You never saw him appear.

again drove in. no one. park the car. no one. turned to open the door no one set foot outside now facing the direction where he would have stood, no one. dipped my head/did not close my eyes still facing the direction he appeared in, still no one. standing up no one... standing up right dude 3 ft from me.

Sorry to have to tell you this, but I do that and I'm pretty sure that it's not a Divine Power. Seriously, I can walk right up to people and scare their socks off. They had no idea I was there despite the fact that I was walking straight toward them in a brightly lit room with no obstruction scuffing my sneakers on the floor a bit.

that is appearing out of nowhere sport.

That's a failure of your mortal perception. It's also why nobody who views your story with a critical eye gives it any credence.

The facts: You didn't see him appear.
Your interpretation: He appeared from nowhere.

Your entire story is your interpretation of mundane events coloured by your religion.

again stupid, this story is not meant to convince you.

Well then why are you wasting bandwidth to annoy us with it.