Cardinal George Pell has conviction overturned

[The Architect Of Fate]

I thought the same thing but u know what I learnt, he wasn't in a position of power until well after in 1996. Another bishop actually lead Ballarat, Pell was just a priest there

But then he moved in the ranks and you can't tell me he learned nothing of the rot in the church and did he do anything to address it ?

[Agnostico]

I thought the same thing but u know what I learnt, he wasn't in a position of power until well after in 1996. Another bishop actually lead Ballarat, Pell was just a priest there

But then he moved in the ranks and you can't tell me he learned nothing of the rot in the church and did he do anything to address it ?

My point was that he was never in charge like many people think and so cannot be held accountable for not knowing what his colleges did. 
How would he have known. I can't imagine a colleague openly telling others about such acts

Bishop Mulkearns of Ballarat had moved Gerald Ridsdale because of complaints. Both men were to be later exposed for their crimes. 
The Royal Commission assumes that when Pell joined Ballarat 1973, Bishop Mulkearns would have told him. 
Its a wild assumption driven by the perception that he was a pedophile which was being told by the media back in 2017 when these findings were made

Pell's defence has been the same all along. There was a point in time when he did start to hear about complaints coming from parents
When he confronted his colleges they assured him that they were false rumours. He says he was deceived by them

What does a man do at this point. U may argue that he should of gone to the cops and in hindsight he should have
But u r choosing to believe the story of someone you have never even met and disregarding the word of your workmate. Then to go to the cops

So he knew about the complaints but how was he to possibly know if they were true. 
Knowing that his colleges were pedophiles and knowing about the complaints aren't the same thing

Anyway there is plenty there for u to pull apart and have fun with

[The Architect Of Fate]

But then he moved in the ranks and you can't tell me he learned nothing of the rot in the church and did he do anything to address it ?

My point was that he was never in charge like many people think and so cannot be held accountable for not knowing what his colleges did. 
How would he have known. I can't imagine a colleague openly telling others about such acts

Bishop Mulkearns of Ballarat had moved Gerald Ridsdale because of complaints. Both men were to be later exposed for their crimes. 
The Royal Commission assumes that when Pell joined Ballarat 1973, Bishop Mulkearns would have told him. 
Its a wild assumption driven by the perception that he was a pedophile which was being told by the media back in 2017 when these findings were made

Pell's defence has been the same all along. There was a point in time when he did start to hear about complaints coming from parents
When he confronted his colleges they assured him that they were false rumours. He says he was deceived by them

What does a man do at this point. U may argue that he should of gone to the cops and in hindsight he should have
But u r choosing to believe the story of someone you have never even met and disregarding the word of your workmate. Then to go to the cops

So he knew about the complaints but how was he to possibly know if they were true. 
Knowing that his colleges were pedophiles and knowing about the complaints aren't the same thing

Anyway there is plenty there for u to pull apart and have fun with

Accept we know from prior cases that priests did confess to other priests of abuse .And yes he can if he knew but said nothing.

[Agnostico]

Accept we know from prior cases that priests did confess to other priests  of abuse

Confession... I see what ur saying. Would they pick a priest who was unaware but or a priest who was aware

And yes he can if he knew but said nothing

Not sure what u mean by "yes he can"
If he knew what was happening and said nothing then he is guilty, yes. Its up to the cops to prove that in court now anyway so we''ll see eventually

[The Architect Of Fate]

Accept we know from prior cases that priests did confess to other priests  of abuse

Confession... I see what ur saying. Would they pick a priest who was unaware but or a priest who was aware

And yes he can if he knew but said nothing

Not sure what u mean by "yes he can"
If he knew what was happening and said nothing then he is guilty, yes. Its up to the cops to prove that in court now anyway so we''ll see eventually

Could be either as priests tend to keep confession  secret and as i said originally i find it unlikely pell knows nothing even not factoring authority he's been in h church awhile .

[Agnostico]

Could be either as priests tend to keep confession  secret and as i said originally i find it unlikely pell knows nothing even not factoring authority he's been in h church awhile .

1973-1983 he was still a newbie. My standards are the same for all defendants, innocent till proven
I find the release of these findings from 2017 to be ideologically motivated to stir up even more hate based on assumptions, there is no other reason for it

[The Architect Of Fate]

Could be either as priests tend to keep confession  secret and as i said originally i find it unlikely pell knows nothing even not factoring authority he's been in h church awhile .

1973-1983 he was still a newbie. My standards are the same for all defendants, innocent till proven
I find the release of these findings from 2017 to be ideologically motivated to stir up even more hate based on assumptions, there is no other reason for it

Yup i'm clearly talking about since then. And that standard is neither here nor there as i wasn't talking legally in that post .

[Agnostico]

1973-1983 he was still a newbie. My standards are the same for all defendants, innocent till proven
I find the release of these findings from 2017 to be ideologically motivated to stir up even more hate based on assumptions, there is no other reason for it

Yup i'm clearly talking about since then. And that standard is neither here nor there as i wasn't talking legally in that post .

He wasn't in Ballarat after 1983... The chances of him learning the truth after then borders on the impossible

[The Architect Of Fate]

Yup i'm clearly talking about since then. And that standard is neither here nor there as i wasn't talking legally in that post .

He wasn't in Ballarat after 1983... The chances of him learning the truth after then borders on the impossible

No it's not

[Agnostico]

He wasn't in Ballarat after 1983... The chances of him learning the truth after then borders on the impossible

No it's not

I said borders on the impossible, not that it was, u one eyed Christian hater... LoL

There is a slight chance that priests would have driven all the way from Ballarat to Melbourne just to make a confession to Pell.
Even though many sympathetic priests could of done it for them in Ballarat... 
But your opinion doesn't have to follow court standards or logic or anything really