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Talking to mormons
#11
RE: Talking to mormons
(April 11, 2020 at 7:30 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: For a proper overview of Mormonism, I can't recommend highly enough Twain's 'Roughing It', chapters 13-16 and the first two appendices.

Boru

Thanks for the Mark Twain I don't think I've read that.

Mormons you say? I just loves me an opportunity to remind y'all of this:


Quote:High on a rocky promontory sat an Electric Monk on a bored horse.

The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.

Unfortunately this Electric Monk had developed a fault, and had started to believe all kinds of things, more or less at random. It was even beginning to believe things they'd have difficulty believing in Salt Lake City.

D. Adams.
Miserable Bastard.
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#12
RE: Talking to mormons
(April 11, 2020 at 7:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(April 11, 2020 at 7:03 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: So there is a Heaven.

When you are talking to Christians you have to use their language, like when you're talking to a child for whom you want to discourage the use of blanket as a friend, you don't throw out the blanket out the window and say: "Deal with it." But you say "Blanket doesn't want to go to horse race today, it wants to stay home." And you make him or her leave the blanket for few hours and you increase that timespan with time until he or she doesn't need the blanket anymore.

That's why you can't approach a Christian and say everything in one breath, like "Underwear is not magical and you don't get your own planet when you die and Jesus didn't live in America and virgins really can't get pregnant and Jesus torture was an invention copied from Psalm 22..."

So you first say "It was not ok for Joseph to steal all those wives from people that were on their planets working on their farms." Let them see Joseph first fail in their own fantasy world and then explain them how magical underwear doesn't work and that nobody gets their planet when they die.

I just say "Keep telling me I'm going to Hell and you'll join my bodyguard."
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#13
RE: Talking to mormons
(April 11, 2020 at 10:47 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I just say "Keep telling me I'm going to Hell and you'll join my bodyguard."

I just tell them to stop living in fear.
A christian is someone who fears hell and does not wish to go there. He uses the threat of hell on the people around him.
Islam does the same thing. No wonder these 2 religions are the top 1 and 2 in the world.
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#14
RE: Talking to mormons
It was an ex-mormon I heard say something like, "they're the nlcest people until they get you into their club. That's when you see the really crazy shit."
Dying to live, living to die.
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#15
RE: Talking to mormons
The problem with morons is, that their extremely stupi....... oh, you said mormons.
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#16
RE: Talking to mormons
(April 11, 2020 at 3:47 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: It was an ex-mormon I heard say something like, "they're the nlcest people until they get you into their club.  That's when you see the really crazy shit."

I have heard that they are nice as well but I have been visiting exmormon.org.
It isn’t pretty.
It is specially hard when the rest of the family are TBM (true believer mormon). Some cut off ties with the exmormon. If they found out that the person is gay, same deal. They drive some to want to commit suicide.
You would have to be a very evil fuck to do something like that to your family member.


Some feel suicidal when they find out that their belief is false.
There was one case where the lady stopped believing in her 50s. She pretended until her husband died.


Another case:
An archaeologist loses faith. He continus to pretend to be a mormon until near his death.
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#17
RE: Talking to mormons
Vorlie would have had a blast with this one. ❤️
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#18
RE: Talking to mormons
(April 11, 2020 at 4:36 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote:
(April 11, 2020 at 3:47 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: It was an ex-mormon I heard say something like, "they're the nlcest people until they get you into their club.  That's when you see the really crazy shit."

I have heard that they are nice as well but I have been visiting exmormon.org.
It isn’t pretty.
It is specially hard when the rest of the family are TBM (true believer mormon). Some cut off ties with the exmormon. If they found out that the person is gay, same deal. They drive some to want to commit suicide.
You would have to be a very evil fuck to do something like that to your family member.


Some feel suicidal when they find out that their belief is false.
There was one case where the lady stopped believing in her 50s. She pretended until her husband died.


Another case:
An archaeologist loses faith. He continus to pretend to be a mormon until near his death.

Shunning.

Or "disfellowshipping".

It's how you know it's a cult.

I had the same discussion with a JW.

"I want no part of your cult."

"We're not a cult!"

"Do you practice cutting people off from friends and family because they leave?"

"Yes."

"Then you're a cult."
Dying to live, living to die.
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#19
RE: Talking to mormons
I think I forgot to post the link with my last post where I wrote
Another case:
An archaeologist loses faith. He continus to pretend to be a mormon until near his death.

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Link removed due to 30/30 violation.

Also, how do I edit my post after posting it? I don't see any edit button.

(April 11, 2020 at 4:58 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Shunning.

Or "disfellowshipping".

It's how you know it's a cult.

I had the same discussion with a JW.

"I want no part of your cult."

"We're not a cult!"

"Do you practice cutting people off from friends and family because they leave?"

"Yes."

"Then you're a cult."

Yup. Shunning or excommunication and other such words.
The question to asks is, why do you do it?
Shouldn't people be allowed to disagree when it comes to which food they like, which movie to go to, which career path to follow, who they vote for?
It's about freedom to choose and think and freedom is pretty important to everybody.
When they drive people to depression and suicide, I would call them evil fucks.
Why? Because they know exactly what they are doing.
Compare that to a hurricane. A hurricane is not evil. It is a brainless entity.
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#20
RE: Talking to mormons
(April 11, 2020 at 8:28 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: I think I forgot to post the link with my last post where I wrote
Another case:
An archaeologist loses faith. He continus to pretend to be a mormon until near his death.

Moderator Notice
Link removed due to 30/30 violation.

Also, how do I edit my post after posting it? I don't see any edit button.

The edit button is directly below and to the right of your post.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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