[Serious] Care to Seriously Consider the Existance of a Creator (God)?

[theMadJW]

Heh! I guess "facts" mean science fiction and/or fairy tales to him...

[brewer]

Let's see!
Uncountable random atoms begin assembling themselves together to form living things!
(Science doesn't even know what Life is- but pretends to know how it 'evolved', all by itself!)
No arms spring from the chest, nor eyes on the rump!
FUNCTIONING bodies- that just happen to be put together in such a way to exist in the Ecosystems, which just happen to have the right atmosphere, the right type of Gravity, etc!

I'm OK with saying that humans don't know (yet). But humans are advancing down that path of knowledge every day.

You however seem to need an explanation, and not knowing yourself, you choose to say/believe there is a god and that it created. (because that's what other believers told you)

Logically, now your next step would be to provide evidence for the claimed creator. Understand that evidence does not equal argument. Please tell us what your evidence for a creator god is.

Or you can continue trolling and I'll continue laughing. Your choice.

[The Valkyrie]

Heh! I guess "facts" mean science fiction and/or fairy tales to him...

And just fairy tales to you.

[polymath257]

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Let's see!
Uncountable random atoms begin assembling themselves together to form living things!
(Science doesn't even know what Life is- but pretends to know how it 'evolved', all by itself!)
No arms spring from the chest, nor eyes on the rump!
FUNCTIONING bodies- that just happen to be put together in such a way to exist in the Ecosystems, which just happen to have the right atmosphere, the right type of Gravity, etc!

Well, we know that uncountably many atoms *do* assemble themselves into living things. That is, after all, what happens during pregnancy.

Life is a complex collection of chemical reactions that can maintain internal state and reproduce.

Arms do spring from the chest: on the side. You seem to ignore the power of natural selection to make sure such deformities don't pass their genes on to the next generation. Each generation is slightly better adapted to the environment than the previous.

Well, the atmosphere wasn't originally like this. At one time it has a LOT less oxygen, for example. Of course, that was back when the only living things on Earth were bacteria and some fairly new complex cells that produced oxygen. Well, it turns out that there was a massive die-off because oxygen is actually poisonous to many living things (and almost all of them at that time).

Anyway, the ones that survived were able to contain and use oxygen to power their metabolisms (for the most part).

We evolved to be able to survive in this particular ecosystem and gravity. If life has started on Jupiter, it would have looked a LOT different.

[Peebothuhlu]

Let's see!
Uncountable random atoms begin assembling themselves together to form living things!
(Science doesn't even know what Life is- but pretends to know how it 'evolved', all by itself!)
No arms spring from the chest, nor eyes on the rump!
FUNCTIONING bodies- that just happen to be put together in such a way to exist in the Ecosystems, which just happen to have the right atmosphere, the right type of Gravity, etc!

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Except, as has already been explained to you, atoms 'comming together' is definately not random. Or are you also claiming a deity is behind every water molecule forming as well? Is ther an army of 'Snow flake angels' putting together every snow flake?

Now you're opting for te 'Pokemon' evolution idea.

So.. if there's nothing similar between fish and birds? Why are both bilaterally symetrical?

You've been shown the effects of poor gene transferrence. There are example of beneficial gene transference. Also, you seem completly un aware of exactly the 'How' of physical morphology developing either, so there's that.

And still no actual posting of your proofs. Just demonstratably ignorant posts in regards to the position that is your opposition.

This is not how one advances their knowledge nor cause.

Cheers.

Not at work,

[Pat Mustard]

Do you know what causes such rare things- or implying they are the norm?
Many things can cause such accidents, but I know that's over YOUR head!

So an all powerful god is unable to stop things happening which are not to its will?

You're disproving yhwh right as you type there, laddie.

[Mister Agenda]

Just a serious discussion, free of egotism & assumption?
Can you TAKE facts?

I can...

I very much doubt that you can TAKE facts yourself, but I hope I'll be amazed.

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OK, give us FACTS (with supporting evidence)
If a god created everything who or what created that god?
If a god created the universe (that is everything that exists) then where was he/it before he created everything?

I do not pretend to know everything- do YOU?
Fact is all things HAVE been created- otherwise there would be nothing but un-organized matter.

Actually, that would violate chaos theory, some organization is unavailable unless their is a Grand Disorganizer to prevent it. For example an apparently random playlist that never plays the same song twice in a row has been designed to never play the same song twice in a row. A chaotic universe will have some order.

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Have you considered the possibility of self-organization?

Boru

"Self"? You mean molecules are sentiment beings?

That's something you might honestly think he meant if you were some kind of idiot; or pretend to think if you're a poser derailed by their own egoism and inability to TAKE facts....

[downbeatplumb]

Heh! I guess "facts" mean science fiction and/or fairy tales to him...

The answers we have are all superior to "magic man dun it".

[The Architect Of Fate]

Just a serious discussion, free of egotism & assumption?
Can you TAKE facts?

I can...

I very much doubt that you can TAKE facts yourself, but I hope I'll be amazed.

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I do not pretend to know everything- do YOU?
Fact is all things HAVE been created- otherwise there would be nothing but un-organized matter.

Actually, that would violate chaos theory, some organization is unavailable unless their is a Grand Disorganizer to prevent it. For example an apparently random playlist that never plays the same song twice in a row has been designed to never play the same song twice in a row. A chaotic universe will have some order.

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"Self"? You mean molecules are sentiment beings?

That's something you might honestly think he meant if you were some kind of idiot or pretend to think if you're a poser derailed by their own egoism and inability to TAKE facts....

Consider all his arguments are essentially 

That sounds impossible to me so it didn't happen 

That sounds weird to me so it didn't happen 

How is this not egoism?

And he's misusing the word self .Self assembly is a valid term .

[Mister Agenda]

So-are you telling me NONE of you see how molecules are used to form many specific kinds of cells- all ORGANIZED and WORKING TOGETHER- to perform FUNCTIONS?

There was nothing in any post preceding this one that would justify you thinking that was what ANY of us were telling you. Not only can we see it, we can give a much more thorough explanation of how that came about than 'God did it'.

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Do you know what causes such rare things- or implying they are the norm?
Many things can cause such accidents, but I know that's over YOUR head!

You don't know what's over the head of anyone here. You and your egoism, I swear....