(April 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote: To deny our bodies, for example. were designed, is to imply we are the result of uncountable accidents all happening at the right time, in the right order.

To deny it happened any other way is to invoke your pet delusions.

(April 26, 2020 at 12:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote:

(April 26, 2020 at 11:56 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: OK, give us FACTS (with supporting evidence)
If a god created everything who or what created that god?
If a god created the universe (that is everything that exists) then where was he/it before he created everything?

I do not pretend to know everything- do YOU?
Fact is all things HAVE been created- otherwise there would be nothing but un-organized matter.

On the contrary, matter is subject to the laws of physics and chemistry and those laws drive matter to become organized.

For example, large clouds of gas (light years across) will condense under the action of gravity, forming more organized stars.

There are a great many physical systems that will spontaneously organize, usually dirven by some sort of energy
difference between their initial state and their final state, although systems that are far from equilibrium also
tend to show large scale organization.

No consciousness is required for this to happen: it comes from the fact that matter is interactive with other matter,
not inert. Any chemistry class can convince you this is the case.

(April 25, 2020 at 5:06 pm)theMadJW Wrote: Can you TAKE facts?

Please provide some.

(April 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote: To deny our bodies, for example. were designed, is to imply we are the result of uncountable accidents all happening at the right time, in the right order.

"Right order" you say? What kind of an asshole would design this? Does this look like right order to you?

(April 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote: I have to wait to post science graphics, since I'm new here look forward to it!
To deny our bodies, for example. were designed, is to imply we are the result of uncountable accidents all happening at the right time, in the right order.

That is not claimed, nor is it remotely how anything happened.

There is nothing random about abiogenesis or evolution. That is merely a lie your pastor tells you to placate any questions you may have.

(April 26, 2020 at 4:33 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(April 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote: I have to wait to post science graphics, since I'm new here look forward to it!
To deny our bodies, for example. were designed, is to imply we are the result of uncountable accidents all happening at the right time, in the right order.

That is not claimed, nor is it remotely how anything happened.
There is nothing random about abiogenesis or evolution. That is merely a lie your pastor tells you to placate any questions you may have.

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Then tell us HOW they assembled themselves so very well ...on their own!

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(April 26, 2020 at 4:25 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(April 26, 2020 at 2:40 pm)theMadJW Wrote: To deny our bodies, for example. were designed, is to imply we are the result of uncountable accidents all happening at the right time, in the right order.

"Right order" you say? What kind of an asshole would design this? Does this look like right order to you?

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Do you know what causes such rare things- or implying they are the norm?
Many things can cause such accidents, but I know that's over YOUR head!

(April 26, 2020 at 4:48 pm)theMadJW Wrote:

(April 26, 2020 at 4:25 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: "Right order" you say? What kind of an asshole would design this? Does this look like right order to you?

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Do you know what causes such rare things- or implying they are the norm?
Many things can cause such accidents, but I know that's over YOUR head!

So you admit it's an accident but when its "right order" then its God.

Quote:I have to wait to post science graphics, since I'm new here look forward to it!

And you will miss use them 

Quote:To deny our bodies, for example. were designed, is to imply we are the result of uncountable accidents all happening at the right time, in the right order.

Non sequitur mixed with arguments from credulity

So, if you claim to understand something, having facts to back you up- that's being egotistical?
C'mon, me friend! You KNOW better!

Quote:Do you know what causes such rare things- or implying they are the norm?

Mutations 

Quote:Many things can cause such accidents, but I know that's over YOUR head!

You didn't address  his point

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Quote:Then tell us HOW they assembled themselves so very well ...on their own!

Argument from ignorance

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(April 26, 2020 at 4:57 pm)theMadJW Wrote: So, if you claim to understand something, having facts to back you up- that's being egotistical?
C'mon, me friend! You KNOW better!

Strawman 

You're just full of fallacies