Joe Biden facing sexual assault allegations

[The Architect Of Fate]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA   
OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO 



Oh mate uv been quite recently with boring responses then all of the sudden, CRACKER, u pull out you best one worder to date. 
Ohhhehehehehheheheh classic. 

Blah blah blah because you don't like he response it's "boring " and predictably prattle on about me using one word to dispatch your blather then call my response boring .The irony 

What would u even know about Vicpol or the OPP or piranha or the yellow submarine or the mag... Sweet fuck all... 
Their just a buch of pixels to u 

I lived in Victoria then Perth for 3 years while working with  the police on child abuse and child exploitation cases , And i have been across the continent several times as a representative of inter aboriginal relations and civil rights .Lovely place but way too damn hot.

But off course your such a Wozl. No shame dishonesty. 

Actually that would be you friend

Like u know what cops and courts are like in every country right. 

Every country no . 15 countries yes .Because i worked with them on various abuse cases .Mainly child abuse and child exploitation cases .And in some cases civil rights cases . I didn't find them any worse than cops in Cologne Germany or Voorst in the Netherlands .

I set u up and catch you out every time either contradicting urself or being dishonest... 

You literally never do that .Only convince yourself you do 

The one worder is your trademark mate u gotta use that shit more often. 

I only use it in response to comments that don't warrant anything else 

And whats with this agreeing business from before, that's not u. Uv changed

You don't always something stupid .Just often 

Stop elaborating all the time, ur not good at that it's just not u. One worders are your specialty

No i use the response i feel is appropriate

Where were u on the anti vaxx thread SUNGs u missed that one

I  miss a million threads and i already voiced my opinion of Anti Vaxxers on this forum several times .I don't feel the need to do so again .

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For a parody sake 

What would u even know about RCMP or the CCJ or Zebra Mussels  or the Bridge  or the Kosk... Sweet fuck all... 

See i can use local hometown references too .Look at me so knowledgeable 

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I simply asked u to tell me what #believeallwomen and #metoo is

And i pointed out i don't believe you would get it or you do and you misrepresent it on purpose

[Agnostico]

Well, on the off chance that you're willing to learn:
#metoo  is largely about acknowledging the fact that sexual harassment or misconduct in all its forms is an omnipresent problem for women (and men, to a lesser extent).
#believeallwomen is, depending on the user, either a strawman version of #believewomen (because false accusations aren't really as common as people often claim they are, though not as rare as many feminists claim they are), or an earnestly-believed and particularly unreasonable version of same (because, frankly, for all their virtues, women are still human with all the dysfunctional shit that entails). Looking it up, I'm seeing it used more commonly in the former sense.

And just so we're clear, when you say "Cops down here are so eager to prosecute anything and everything with fuck all evidence, especially for women." Are you sure you're talking about the police and legal system or are you talking about the media and social media? Because I do think trials by social media and media are a legitimate problem and far more likely to net a false positive than a proper legal trial.

Cheers Rev Im  always willing to learn
Yea #metoo was was i thought or had read about

#believewomen. Does the most common mean believe the female complaint in the court room? That her testimony alone can convict?
Or is it more how Joe Biden presented it and said we must believe women when they make the accusation so we can act on investigating and pressing charges?
Cos i thought it was the first one and that Biden twisted it well to invent the second one... Im not sure now

I mentioned the cops down here i am referring to a personal matter of mine where i got framed and the cops just led the way
And even though the false story that had been given contained nothing sexual on it they really pressed hard it find something. Im so lucky the accusations were minor

I also refer to the family court system here as well. My friends had an argument once and the neighbors called the cops. 
When they arrived it had calmed down. The police charged him for something and placed a 6 month IVO on him. 
And his partner is telling the cops why are you doing this she didn't want to charge him or have him taken away from the family. But the cops went ahead with this bs

So he moved out for a month but was there every day. Her and the kids want to see him, they need him
So he eventually moves back in thinking cops won't know. Then one night the cops puled up in the drive way and busted him there. Like they knew
So then the poor prick has to go through the court bs and gets jailed for one year. His missus and kids cannot visit him, he cant phone them. Its tradgic

I play the middle man. I was recording his partner and kids giving him a message on my fone. Then when i visit him in jail he sees it and records somethings back for them
Now the prison is infected by C19 and their in a 23 hour lockdown 

And that case isn't rare either. In prison, breaking an IVO would be the most popular crime. Some of them have the same story as my mate. 
Others get removed if she says she is afraid to the cops they do the same. 
Then next morning she will call the cops and say whats happening i didn't want him taken we just had an argument

It seems that in an attempt to protect women they are pressing charges against their will and breaking families

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I lived in Victoria then Perth for 3 years while working with  the police on child abuse and child exploitation cases , And i have been across the continent several times as a representative of inter aboriginal relations and civil rights .Lovely place but way too damn hot.

Every country no . 15 countries yes .Because i worked with them on various abuse cases .Mainly child abuse and child exploitation cases .And in some cases civil rights cases . I didn't find them any worse than cops in Cologne Germany or Voorst in the Netherlands

Are u kidding me or what SUNGs.
Id like to think that u were genuine here that your an actual person revealing something about yourself, but... This is a trick isn't it
What are u claiming to be a lawyer or investigator. But u haven't displayed a lawyers knowledge.

For example i said that the presumption of innocence should always be with the defendant at the start of the trial.
But u disagreed, how. Even an armchair lawyer knows this to be standard practice. Unless u were just opposing everything

Can u understand how i might be hesitant to believe the SUNGs
And i don't know when u were here but don't u know about Vic police. Google Victoria police corruption

The NSW cops were the corrupt ones in the 80s and 90s. But its been the Vicpol the last 20 years.
The lawyer X royal commission (federal investigation) is massive.
Melbourne's gangland murders and crimes were massive. Cops have been done for corruption, its well documented

So i dunno SUNGs. Unless u were just opposing me just to oppose It doesn't add up
I think your mite be setting me up for a massiff one worder???

[The Architect Of Fate]

Well, on the off chance that you're willing to learn:
#metoo  is largely about acknowledging the fact that sexual harassment or misconduct in all its forms is an omnipresent problem for women (and men, to a lesser extent).
#believeallwomen is, depending on the user, either a strawman version of #believewomen (because false accusations aren't really as common as people often claim they are, though not as rare as many feminists claim they are), or an earnestly-believed and particularly unreasonable version of same (because, frankly, for all their virtues, women are still human with all the dysfunctional shit that entails). Looking it up, I'm seeing it used more commonly in the former sense.

And just so we're clear, when you say "Cops down here are so eager to prosecute anything and everything with fuck all evidence, especially for women." Are you sure you're talking about the police and legal system or are you talking about the media and social media? Because I do think trials by social media and media are a legitimate problem and far more likely to net a false positive than a proper legal trial.

Cheers Rev Im  always willing to learn
Yea #metoo was was i thought or had read about

#believewomen. Does the most common mean believe the female complaint in the court room? That her testimony alone can convict?
Or is it more how Joe Biden presented it and said we must believe women when they make the accusation so we can act on investigating and pressing charges?
Cos i thought it was the first one and that Biden twisted it well to invent the second one... Im not sure now

I mentioned the cops down here i am referring to a personal matter of mine where i got framed and the cops just led the way
And even though the false story that had been given contained nothing sexual on it they really pressed hard it find something. Im so lucky the accusations were minor

I also refer to the family court system here as well. My friends had an argument once and the neighbors called the cops. 
When they arrived it had calmed down. The police charged him for something and placed a 6 month IVO on him. 
And his partner is telling the cops why are you doing this she didn't want to charge him or have him taken away from the family. But the cops went ahead with this bs

So he moved out for a month but was there every day. Her and the kids want to see him, they need him
So he eventually moves back in thinking cops won't know. Then one night the cops puled up in the drive way and busted him there. Like they knew
So then the poor prick has to go through the court bs and gets jailed for one year. His missus and kids cannot visit him, he cant phone them. Its tradgic

I play the middle man. I was recording his partner and kids giving him a message on my fone. Then when i visit him in jail he sees it and records somethings back for them
Now the prison is infected by C19 and their in a 23 hour lockdown 

And that case isn't rare either. In prison, breaking an IVO would be the most popular crime. Some of them have the same story as my mate. 
Others get removed if she says she is afraid to the cops they do the same. 
Then next morning she will call the cops and say whats happening i didn't want him taken we just had an argument

It seems that in an attempt to protect women they are pressing charges against their will and breaking families

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I lived in Victoria then Perth for 3 years while working with  the police on child abuse and child exploitation cases , And i have been across the continent several times as a representative of inter aboriginal relations and civil rights .Lovely place but way too damn hot.

Every country no . 15 countries yes .Because i worked with them on various abuse cases .Mainly child abuse and child exploitation cases .And in some cases civil rights cases . I didn't find them any worse than cops in Cologne Germany or Voorst in the Netherlands

Are u kidding me or what SUNGs.
Id like to think that u were genuine here that your an actual person revealing something about yourself, but... This is a trick isn't it
What are u claiming to be a lawyer or investigator. But u haven't displayed a lawyers knowledge.

For example i said that the presumption of innocence should always be with the defendant at the start of the trial.
But u disagreed, how. Even an armchair lawyer knows this to be standard practice. Unless u were just opposing everything

Can u understand how i might be hesitant to believe the SUNGs
And i don't know when u were here but don't u know about Vic police. Google Victoria police corruption

The NSW cops were the corrupt ones in the 80s and 90s. But its been the Vicpol the last 20 years.
The lawyer X royal commission (federal investigation) is massive.
Melbourne's gangland murders and crimes were massive. Cops have been done for corruption, its well documented

So i dunno SUNGs. Unless u were just opposing me just to oppose It doesn't add up
I think your mite be setting me up for a massiff one worder???

Firstly i'm not a lawyer i'm a psychologist specializing in pedophlia and child sex offenders and related topics(child victim trauma etc ) . (in those cases Victoria and Perth's link to a child porn ring )

Second there is a difference between understanding legal proceedings and agreeing with them on a philosophical level 

Third Whether or not they are corrupt in one aspect does not equate to your specific accusation . I didn't see anything on the inside and that was only 12 years ago .

Frankly believe me or not i don't really care . I was simply informing you from my own experience on the matter .

[downbeatplumb]

I don't think you should just believe all woman because (shocker) some women lie.

All claims should be taken seriously and investigated.

Lets start with the claim of Trump raping that 13 year old shall we. You know, the one with the picture of him at the confirmed child rapist/trafficers home with Trumps arms around her. Or the rape of his wife. Or the rape of that journalist.

[Violet]

Debating about Biden’s sexual assault accusation and what constitutes rape is really awkward for we survivors. You don’t have to be part of every debate. Sometimes listening and observing is best.

It sure is fascinating to watch, though. I particularly enjoyed the accurate grasp of legalese between sexual assault and rape. Reminds me of just how ‘interesting’ letter of the law is when compared with the spirit of the law.

Injustice in both systems, unfortunately. I sure wish people could just be civil creatures to each other, and would stop with *all* the bad shit of their own accord and personal interest that hasn’t been guided and shaped by other persons and policies. Then there’s no injustices for anybody.

Being in the gaps really isn’t fun. 💜

[Agnostico]

Firstly i'm not a lawyer i'm a psychologist specializing in pedophlia and  child sex offenders and related topics(child victim trauma etc ) . (in those cases Victoria and Perth's link to a child porn ring )

Now see that changes everything. Now i understand where u were coming from in the Pell discussion
It becomes a touchy subject when kids are involved, abortion, vaxx. People understandably get torn by it
A child cannot consent but worse of all they can't make a legitimate claim till their 18 i guess 
Im torn reading about child sex rings. Is that back then or now still?

Second there is a difference between understanding legal proceedings and agreeing with them on a philosophical level

To be fair your philosophical view would be very much shaped by your line of work which is fine, but it is subjective
You also have to say that philosophical views don't have any baring on court procedures and don't belong in the court room i think

The guilty should always be presumed innocent in a court of law regardless. And thats the way it should be in a fair court. Wouldn't u u agree?

Third Whether or not they are corrupt in one aspect does not equate to your specific accusation . I didn't see anything on the inside and that was only 12 years ago

In regards to my specific accusation look above. I briefly gave my case study and another case study which is connected to the family court system
And then what i found in prison to be the most prevalent crime. It ends with what i see has happened here. Read that

12 years ago. Well gangland crimes was in 2010. Im not sure if u were here or know about that but its well documented.
Then maybe 5 years after that the corruption stuff started coming out. Again well documented. Easy to find. Lawyer X is the biggest scandal of them all

Crime here is fucked, some cops are fucked, corrupt, incapable, branches of the justice system are fucked
Like im not sure how much u would of been exposed to everything given your specific line of work

Frankly believe me or not i don't really care . I was simply informing you from my own experience on the matter

Ok fair enough. How about a bit of mercy on the hostility. 
I know im crap with words, too blunt, fuck around sometimes, probably the most conservative person in here so plenty of disagreement

But im not a total abomination and i know we agree on some things. Like how was i ever meant to take u seriously lol like u take things out of context and pick on the most irrelevant details sometimes. Then when i ask something like #believewomen i get nuffin. Like cmon cobba this is unfair treatment 

Surely we can just talk like i do with many people here. I like Rev he always gives me a chance and understands me so i know im not totally retarded 

So wattaya say? Cease fire? Peace? Or?

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Lets start with the claim of Trump raping that 13 year old shall we. You know, the one with the picture of him at the confirmed child rapist/trafficers home with Trumps arms around her. Or the rape of his wife. Or the rape of that journalist.

Are they old claims? They've investigated it and no charges were laid so... Its basically case closed unless something new comes up
Excellent opportunity for the dems really to pull out someone with a claim against him

[Rev. Rye]

You want to know what I think about “believewomen”? If a woman talks about sexist incidents that happened to her or accuses someone of some kind of sexual misconduct, don’t just assume it’s automatically a lie or a ploy. That said, If a claim is investigated and evidence points against the credibility of the incident in question, I have no qualms against disbelieving it. Some feminists seem to not bother with my little caveat, and I’d call these types Useful Idiots.

That said, I don’t think we’ve reached a state where we can definitively say either “Yes, Joe Biden did assault Tara Reade” or “No, Joe Biden did not assault Tara Reade.” It’s tempting to point to the creepy shit that came out about him last year and say this proves he’s willing to push a woman against a wall and stick his fingers up her pussy without her consent, but I don’t think that’s quite enough to be sure.

I once had a coworker (I’ll call her Peaches) who did some of the creepy shit Joe Biden’s been known to do (stuff Like sniffing girls’ hair and getting very touchy-feely with the other girls), although in her case, she was just a girl who worked in the theater, tended to act like a child, and tended to deal with her obvious bisexuality like the dad from Brain Candy:



That said, if I met with one of my former coworkers and she said that Peaches once pushed her into a wall and forcibly fingerbanged her, (and bear in mind, I’ve seen her do some really creepy shit, though nothing on that order), I’d have to investigate it before I could say I was sure either way. Even if it was more like Melanie Martinez allegedly did to Timothy Heller, and that’s more in line with what I’d expect from her!

[GUBU]

And looking at this recent statement by Biden, he's at least not impugning her motives in any way. At least that's something. I'm not sure if he's telling the truth, especially after this interview where he talks about his papers at the University of Delaware, but at least it's a step up from a lot of famous people accused of sexual assault.

Given the facts of the case, that Reade has changed her story on multiple occasions (from there being nothing doing, to something vaguely weird but nothing sexual, to sexual harrassment, to sexual assault); the fact that she's radicly changed her public persona since airing the allegations, including hiding her previous strong support for Biden; the fact that the women who she supposedly talked to about the incident have changed their stories in line with her changes and finally the fact that she's admitted that the report she alleges she made to the Senate watchdog detailing the assault will not detail the assault (if the report was even made) makes me strongly convinced, absent other evidence, that Ms Reade is lying for personal and political gain.

There are too many points coming out currently to ignore the likelihood that this is a malicious false accusation.

[downbeatplumb]

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Lets start with the claim of Trump raping that 13 year old shall we. You know, the one with the picture of him at the confirmed child rapist/trafficers home with Trumps arms around her. Or the rape of his wife. Or the rape of that journalist.

Are they old claims? They've investigated it and no charges were laid so... Its basically case closed unless something new comes up
Excellent opportunity for the dems really to pull out someone with a claim against him

Charges were filed. The case was dropped because the girl started getting death threats and decided to drop it.

We also have his several taped confessions of him doing these sorts of things and the multiple cases some of which have gone to court and paid to be dropped. Most famously by his first wife who filed allegations of rape as part of the divorce procedings. 
we also know hes a sleezebag.

I believe that in all probability Trump is a serial sex offender.

I am not sure about Biden, but it seems less likely or at least rarer.