One clear, precise prophecy of Muhammad.. among many

[Brian37]

Once again. YOU do not get to retrofit definitions or science and reach back in time and claim anyone in antiquity had any modern understanding. It doesn't work when you do it, or when a Christian does it, or when a Jew does it, or when a Hindu or Buddhist do it. AND TRUST ME, I've been online debating religion for almost 20 years and have debated the fallacy of mixing science and religion with every major religion's followers and they all pull this bad logic.

Calm down, pal. Muhammad said the plague doesn't happen in Medina, and guess what ? It really doesn't happen. The end. Credits to Muhammad, shame on atheists.

I didn't claim Muhammad had some "modern understanding", he knew no more than any other man in his time, and the content of what's purpotedly revealed to him, which deals mostly with theology and social issues. And the few things that somewhat deal with science and the understanding of the world- quite a lot actually if we take both the qur'an and the hadiths into account - were free from error, and some of them are quite impressive, such as the ones cited in this thread.

And one more thing, there is no "mixing science with religion" involved, Muhammad predicted that certain events won't happen, like the plague entering Medina, this is not really science.

NOBODY IN THE WORLD back then had any clue as to what DNA/RNA are. NOBODY back then anywhere in the world of any religion  had any clue.

So what..? This doesn't explain away these prophecies. Why would someone who knows he's lying pinpoint one city and predict the plague doesn't enter it? Why would he even think of telling this ?

There was NOTHING scientifically "predictive" about the Koran, or Bible or Jewish OT.

Mo was simply a mere man, with no magic  powers to see into the future. 

Climatology, is a predictive science. Archeology is a academic science. Astrophysics also a predictive science.  Theology isn't a science. 

AGAIN, the ancient Greeks, ancient Romans and ancient Egyptians also had holy people humans believed had predictive powers. "Prophet" is simply the same word as "Soothsayer" "Seer" or "Oracle."

Mo merely created a new religion, nothing more. 

And even if a man named Jesus had existed, he too would have still just been a mere mortal. 

AND, if you spend time online researching the oldest known mythologies of the first Buddha, that mythology has him magically being born out of the side of Queen Maya, and the "divine word" told her she would give birth to a boy who would bring wisdom to the world.

And even with the first claimed Buddha, depending on sect of Buddhism, you will get different claims about his lineage and birthplace. So it will very as to which Buddhist website you go  to. The real truth of even Buddhism, is that a man, or group of people got tired of the old Hindu ways and wanted their own new religion to replace Hinduism.

AGAIN, the Koran is simply a re organized  copy of the Bible. The Bible was an attempt to correct Jewish laws. But even the earliest Jews were polytheists who simply wanted to streamline the Canaanite religion they spun from.

[The Architect Of Fate]

So what..? This doesn't explain away these prophecies. 

They are not prophecies they are vaguely worded bullshit

Why would someone who knows he's lying pinpoint one city and predict the plague doesn't enter it? 

Simple

People lie and don't think they are going to get caught or know they are going to get caught but are confident they can lie their way out . Hell people will say one thing on video then deny they said the thing even when we have a freaking recording of them saying it .Mo would have just lied his way out Something like "Oh i actually said only if god "willing " a plague won't come. It wasn't unconditional   " But again a plague did occur there by  definition (even if it's the one you don't like ) So you lose .

an epidemic disease that causes high mortality; pestilence.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/plague

Why would he even think of telling this ?

To reassure his flock of fools

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Don't wait for a response.

Klorophorm doesn't interact with the wimminz.

Why wouldn't I ? They just tend not to say anything relevant.... just like men, no misogyny intended.

Boru

[Brian37]

"Theology", worldwide in every religion, isn't a "study" in neutral terms. It is training yourself to sell a product you are bias to. Real objective observation, doesn't tell you what to believe, it simply is like reporting what you observe. Every religion in the world has followers that "study" to sell a product, not neutrally report. A "historian" in academics merely reports but doesn't sell.

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So what..? This doesn't explain away these prophecies. 

They are not prophecies they are vaguely worded bullshit

Why would someone who knows he's lying pinpoint one city and predict the plague doesn't enter it? 

Simple

People lie and don't think they are going to get caught or know they are going to get caught but are confident they can lie their way out . Hell people will say one thing on video then deny they said the thing even when we have a freaking recording of them saying it .Mo would have just lied his way out Something like "Oh i actually said only if god "willing " a plague won't come. It wasn't unconditional   " But again a plague did occur there by any definition (even if it's the one you don't like ) So you lose .

Why would he even think of telling this ?

To reassure his flock of fools

Our Muslim friend here simply does not want to face the fact that all the other mythologies he rightfully rejects like I do, and agree were never real, like the Roman and Greek and Egyptian polytheisms , those people truly believed in as fervently as he now believes in Allah. He also doesn't want to consider a future say 10 20,000 years from now, if humans are still around, that today's accepted religions will be tomorrow's mythology. 

There were no written religions 200,000 years ago either. Humans simply made shit up and guessed at the nature of reality, and made very bad guesses.

[onlinebiker]

Don't wait for a response.

Klorophorm doesn't interact with the wimminz.

Why wouldn't I ? They just tend not to say anything relevant.... just like men, no misogyny intended.

I'll bet you like virgins - right?


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It must be tough going through life limited to women who have never seen a real cock......

[arewethereyet]

Why wouldn't I ? They just tend not to say anything relevant.... just like men, no misogyny intended.

I'll bet you like virgins - right?


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It must be tough going through life limited to women who have never seen a real cock......

But having seen him they can say they have seen a dick.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"Here's your 72 virgins. They're all YOUR MOM."

[Brian37]

I never really paid attention to the old 70s si fi movie "Logan's Run" other than liking it. But in my old age looking back at it now, the morality of valuing skepticism was the main plot of that movie. The "cop" male character in the movie, was charged with the job of catching and arresting and or killing anyone trying to flee the city, but slowly figures out that there is a real reality outside what he was taught to believe. But even in reality, in we wouldn't have our modern world if countless people in the past hadn't questioned the nature of reality.

If our species never questioned social norms, our species never would have left the caves. <----- Metaphor for the value of being skeptical and curious and the value of doubt. Modern things like modern medicine, computers, cell phones came about because of a lack of complacency.

[onlinebiker]

Logan's Run. Got it on DVD.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Logan's Run. Got it on DVD.

Other than Jenny Agutter’s thighs, the film is a waste.

Boru