Islam

[WinterHold]

In this topic, I try to picture an image of a world where Islam rules with the Quran as its constitution.
Let's begin.
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::God:

AKA Allah,الله, he is the creator of this universe. Gender is not applied to him; but we use "he" to refer to him for linguistic reasons alone. He is a "creator"; so that's what he does: create. Just like heaven and earth are accepted facts, God is also an accepted fact. He is the first and the last, infinite and supreme.

::Mankind:

God created mankind and gave them minds so they know him. Because that's what he does: create.

::What if Islam ruled the globe?

1-The poor:

The poor must be given despite what they did, as the constitution -the Quran- orders:

Sura 76, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 8 )   And they give food in spite of love for it to the needy, the orphan, and the captive,
( 9 )   [Saying], "We feed you only for the countenance of Allah. We wish not from you reward or gratitude.
( 10 )   Indeed, We fear from our Lord a Day austere and distressful."

2-The criminals:

Crime is not tolerated and punished according to the constitution of that world, the crimes punished are many, including:

 -Having sex without an official contract. It is a crime because sex can produce children and contracts        are essential to keep their rights.
 
 -Murder is punished by killing the killer, such dangerous activity has no place in the world of Islam

 -Robbery is punished by cutting the hand of the thieve.

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[The Architect Of Fate]

So islam offers a backward orwellian nightmare .That no sane person would want to live in . Nah i think i'll stick with a secular democratic society like all the other first world nations .

[Succubus#2]

If that's the best world you can think of then you are one unimaginative fuck.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Yeah, that’s probably not the best way to dispel the notion that Islam is a savage, ignorant religion. 

Let’s talk about thievery. Suppose you have a desperately ill child and the only hope for it is to steal the medicine. You do so, are found out, and your hand is cut off. Does stealing to save the life merit that punishment?

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

Yeah, that’s probably not the best way to dispel the notion that Islam is a savage, ignorant religion. 

Let’s talk about thievery. Suppose you have a desperately ill child and the only hope for it is to steal the medicine. You do so, are found out, and your hand is cut off. Does stealing to save the life merit that punishment?

Boru

And even if it didn't mutilating someone for such a crime is barbaric

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Yeah, that’s probably not the best way to dispel the notion that Islam is a savage, ignorant religion. 

Let’s talk about thievery. Suppose you have a desperately ill child and the only hope for it is to steal the medicine. You do so, are found out, and your hand is cut off. Does stealing to save the life merit that punishment?

Boru

And even if it didn't. Mutilating someone for such a crime is barbaric

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Yeah, that’s probably not the best way to dispel the notion that Islam is a savage, ignorant religion. 

Let’s talk about thievery. Suppose you have a desperately ill child and the only hope for it is to steal the medicine. You do so, are found out, and your hand is cut off. Does stealing to save the life merit that punishment?

Boru

And even if it didn't mutilating someone for such a crime is barbaric

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Yeah, that’s probably not the best way to dispel the notion that Islam is a savage, ignorant religion. 

Let’s talk about thievery. Suppose you have a desperately ill child and the only hope for it is to steal the medicine. You do so, are found out, and your hand is cut off. Does stealing to save the life merit that punishment?

Boru

And even if it didn't. Mutilating someone for such a crime is barbaric

Agreed, I’m just pointing out that not all crimes are created equal, and that a blanket punishment for a given crime can never be just.

As another example, suppose I steal your car for no other reason than it’s a really cool car and I really want it. On the other hand, suppose I steal a packet of pencils from a local shop just because I want some pencils.

Both of these are theft, but to claim (as Winterhold seems to be doing) that they merit exactly the same punishment is purely stupid.

Makes me glad I’m not a Muslim.

Boru

[Brian37]

In this topic, I try to picture an image of a world where Islam rules with the Quran as its constitution.
Let's begin.
===============================================================

::God:

AKA Allah,الله, he is the creator of this universe. Gender is not applied to him; but we use "he" to refer to him for linguistic reasons alone. He is a "creator"; so that's what he does: create. Just like heaven and earth are accepted facts, God is also an accepted fact. He is the first and the last, infinite and supreme.

::Mankind:

God created mankind and gave them minds so they know him. Because that's what he does: create.

::What if Islam ruled the globe?

1-The poor:

The poor must be given despite what they did, as the constitution -the Quran- orders:

Sura 76, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 8 )   And they give food in spite of love for it to the needy, the orphan, and the captive,
( 9 )   [Saying], "We feed you only for the countenance of Allah. We wish not from you reward or gratitude.
( 10 )   Indeed, We fear from our Lord a Day austere and distressful."

2-The criminals:

Crime is not tolerated and punished according to the constitution of that world, the crimes punished are many, including:

 -Having sex without an official contract. It is a crime because sex can produce children and contracts        are essential to keep their rights.
 
 -Murder is punished by killing the killer, such dangerous activity has no place in the world of Islam

 -Robbery is punished by cutting the hand of the thieve.

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What if humans "rule" by accepting we are all humans and labels don't rule?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Sadly, though, labels DO rule. In a very harsh and detrimental fashion.

Boru

[Nay_Sayer]

sounds like shit

[chimp3]

What a nightmare Winterhold proposes. All the more reason to oppose the cruel ideas of Islam.