That Gay Thread

[Rev. Rye]

James Baldwin was a black gay man in the 60's and he sure as he'll wasn't talking about being discriminated against for being LBGT.

Giovanni's Room. Read it.

[no one]

Look huggster, I am not going to pretend that aren't narrow minded shitstains who push their bigoted, intolerant view regarding skin color, but skin color isn't the foundation for every single fucking issue.

I for one, do not give a single flying fuck that your skin color is dark, you just seem quite narrow minded and intolerant.

[LadyForCamus]

@Huggy Bear who cemented in your head that these two issues are mutually exclusive? I already agreed with you that there is racism within the LGBTQ community. That doesn’t fucking mean that black LGBTQ people don’t get discriminated against for being both black and LGBTQ. Holy Jesus. It’s like you have a road block in your brain, I swear. Trying to talk to you about anything is utterly pointless. If you don’t like LGBTQ people because Jebus and “yucky” just say so.

In a system of 'white supremacy' the two issues ARE mutually exclusive if you're black. There are plenty of lbgt white supremacists,  but one can't be an black lbgt white supremacist.

[Silver]

He still doesn't seem to understand that a black person can adhere to the exact same belief system as a white supremacist. Because it's not the skin color, but the belief system.

[LadyForCamus]

He also doesn’t seem to understand that a person can be discriminated against for being black, and also discriminated against for being LGBTQ; i.e., not mutually exclusive, lol.

On second thought, I’m sure he does understand, but you know Huggy. He’ll spin 100 pages of inane, semantic babble and mindless word games rather than simply acknowledge and concede an obvious point of fact. Seems like so much work…

[Silver]

With such a hard-on for whitey, he's no different than those he condemns and dislikes.

[Rev. Rye]

Case in point: Jesse Lee Peterson once likened the Middle Passage (y’know, the horrific conditions in which captured Africans were sent to the New World to become slaves, packed about as close as they could possibly be without everyone dying) to flying coach and thanked God for slavery. That sounds like something a white supremacist would say, right? Well, it turns out he’s black. And, frankly, the man’s elevated melanin content doesn’t make it any less white supremacist to my ears.

And, frankly, given that Trump managed to blur the line between standard conservatism and open white supremacy to the point where you really have to be looking hard to see that the line is even there, black white supremacists might be easier to find than one might expect. Add in the fact that Milo Yiannopolous was ever a major political figure, despite being the awkward combination of a blatant white supremacist who palled around with Richard Spencer and made passwords like 1290longknives and a gay man with a black husband, the idea of a black LGBT white supremacist isn’t all that preposterous. Hell, if we even knew more about that husband besides the fact that he’s black, named John, and married to a total trash fire, he might actually be that black swan Huggy Bear is denying exists.

[no one]

Sometimes those with the so smarts, are keen on playing the big dumbs.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

James Baldwin was a black gay man in the 60's and he sure as he'll wasn't talking about being discriminated against for being LBGT.

Giovanni's Room. Read it.

 Yeah, I did

There's a  line "-- but Jimmy (?)  was a boy"
 
In the early 70's , a favourite writer of historical fiction was Frank Yerby. He wrote a lot of books set in the Antebellum southern US. Great reads. He was also a secular humanist as far as I could tell and anti religion. Two of his best books (imo) were the well researched " Odour Of Sanctity"  and "Judas My Brother".   His photo was never shown in any of his books.  At the time I may have thought that was unusual, but nothing more.  Turns out Frank was an African American man, born in Augusta Georgia in 1916. He lived in The South  where he became highly educated  before moving North.  It should come as no surprise that Frank wrote of a much different antebellum South than than  Margaret Mitchell ( author, Gone With The Wind)
 
The new fear and hatred  of LBGT*** people is nothing more than the same old song with different words.  Based largely on the universal human quality of xenophobia . I'd be willing to bet that fear once had a significant evolutionary benefit. The more cautious and paranoid tended to live longer and have better chance of survival.

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*** the first transgender woman of whom I heard was the courageous Christine Jorgenson. Take a look at her background!

Christine Jorgensen (May 30, 1926 – May 3, 1989) was an American transgender woman who was the first person to become widely known in the United States for having sex reassignment surgery. Jorgensen grew up in the Bronx, New York City. Shortly after graduating from high school in 1945, she was drafted into the U.S. Army during World War II. After her military service, she attended several schools and worked; it is during this time she learned about sex reassignment surgery. Jorgensen traveled to Europe, and in Copenhagen, Denmark, obtained special permission to undergo a series of operations beginning in 1952.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen

[Nay_Sayer]

It's actually a misconception that a black person cannot be against his own people. Much in the same way anyone can be against their own people, black people are often against their community via sheer ignorance.

You're talking about an individual, while I'm speaking of a group. A person like Candace Owens isn't welcome in the black community, she has to stay over there with the white folks, and even then theres only so many black folks they will allow, which is why Candace Owens cant stand that new token black republican chick Kim Klacik, cause she feels she's about to be replaced.

Kim's gonna change her middle name to achieve her goal of KKK initals