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RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 10, 2020 at 3:34 pm
The ground of being isn't vague. That's one hell of a claim.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 10, 2020 at 3:38 pm
(August 10, 2020 at 3:20 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: In one of my undergraduate classes we recreated an experiment from Elizabeth Loftus in which people saw videos of accidents and were subsequently asked to estimate each car's speed.
The variable that changed across participants was the word used to describe the accident. We asked how fast the cars were going when they "hit, "collided," "smashed," etc. The results were simple. People's estimates of the speed correlated with the intensity of the word.
To think you are not altering the accuracy of an idea by framing it with the least charitable words (e.g. magic) is to grossly misunderstand how the mind works.
Your going to have to deal with the negative baggage that your religion has created. If you can't, then maybe it's time for you to change.
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RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 10, 2020 at 3:40 pm
(This post was last modified: August 10, 2020 at 3:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Earlier, we were told that the baggage was our problem. I'm interested...is it inconceivable to our resident christians that any person could have any problem with their god which doesn't reduce to a personal problem?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 10, 2020 at 3:54 pm
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(August 10, 2020 at 3:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Earlier, we were told that the baggage was our problem. I'm interested...is it inconceivable to our resident christians that any person could have any problem with their god which doesn't reduce to a personal problem?
They don't mind if atheists don't believe, as long as we do it in a way that they approve so that their entitlement is not challenged.
Not playing nice will probably be viewed as another form of christian persecution.
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RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 10, 2020 at 4:10 pm
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(August 10, 2020 at 3:33 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: What about majority's representation of beliefs? Most of Christians believe in personal God, that God lives in heaven, that you can record sounds of hell if you go deep underground, and also they believe in exorcism. Why do you think Vatican trains exorcists if they are so sophisticated there in Peter's palace? Perhaps to "heal" people from metaphorical devils?
I agree most Christians believe in a personal God; however,
saying that most Christians believe you can hear sounds of hell if you dig far enough down is a stretch. Perhaps a more appropriate approach to Christianity is on a denomination by denomination basis.
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RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 10, 2020 at 4:29 pm
Quote:I agree most Christians believe in a personal God; however,
saying that most Christians believe you can hear sounds of hell if you dig far enough down is a stretch. Perhaps a more appropriate approach to Christianity is on a denomination by denomination basis.
All the more reason to not to take religion seriously
"Change was inevitable"
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RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 10, 2020 at 4:31 pm
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(August 10, 2020 at 4:29 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: All the more reason to not to take religion seriously
I'm not sure I understand why.
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RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 10, 2020 at 4:45 pm
(August 10, 2020 at 4:10 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Perhaps a more appropriate approach to Christianity is on a denomination by denomination basis.
Would you like to tell us your denomination? My guess is SDA.
(maybe you've said before and I've forgotten, if so....... my apologies)
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RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 10, 2020 at 4:48 pm
That's correct.
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RE: Christians what would change your mind?
August 10, 2020 at 5:08 pm
Quote:I'm not sure I understand why.
Yet another issue for you then
"Change was inevitable"
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