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With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
#61
RE: With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
(August 23, 2020 at 9:52 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
Quote:No, science is the collaboration of all of mankind, it is a big basket with little from each culture, take the Indian zero, along with the Islamic algorithm, combined by the scientists of Gog and Magog to produce the magnificent computer programs.
Nope the scientific revolution occured in the west and most sciences were founded and developed in the west . Zero could have easily been figured out or substituted . Islam did not invent algorithms and neither society utilized it to make the wests computers . So nice try .


Quote:It's an accumulation of efforts from allover the planet, there's why multiculturism works while single state with single race don't.
Nope most science is western and most of it's development was western . Try again 


Quote:But how to convince a savage of Gog and Magog with such a fact, even though right now he is using the accumulation of the Islamic algorithm. with the Indian zero, with the American internet to type these words?
Islam did not create algorithms and western thinkers improved the concept in every way.  the greeks had a placeholders for zero that would have worked just as well . So no you are still using western tech to bitch and moan . You didn't invent the computer nor would you ever have .

Algorithm is an Arabic word خوارزمية from the name of its Muslim creator Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_i...-Khwarizmi

Gog and Magog like you are savages well known for their ignorance though. Go carry a book vermin.
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#62
RE: With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
(August 23, 2020 at 9:59 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(August 23, 2020 at 9:52 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope the scientific revolution occured in the west and most sciences were founded and developed in the west . Zero could have easily been figured out or substituted . Islam did not invent algorithms and neither society utilized it to make the wests computers . So nice try .


Nope most science is western and most of it's development was western . Try again 


Islam did not create algorithms and western thinkers improved the concept in every way.  the greeks had a placeholders for zero that would have worked just as well . So no you are still using western tech to bitch and moan . You didn't invent the computer nor would you ever have .

Algorithm is an Arabic word خوارزمية from the name of its Muslim creator Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_i...-Khwarizmi

Gog and Magog like you are savages well known for their ignorance though. Go carry a book vermin.
Sigh 

 The word but not the concept moron and Islam sure as hell doesn't get credit for the Algorithms that lead to modern computers . You once display why your society is so woefully behind us . Carry on with your bitching you goat plowing hypocrite .
"Change was inevitable"


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#63
RE: With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
(August 23, 2020 at 9:52 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
Quote:No, science is the collaboration of all of mankind, it is a big basket with little from each culture, take the Indian zero, along with the Islamic algorithm, combined by the scientists of Gog and Magog to produce the magnificent computer programs.
Nope the scientific revolution occured in the west and most sciences were founded and developed in the west . Zero could have easily been figured out or substituted . Islam did not invent algorithms and neither society utilized it to make the wests computers . So nice try .


Quote:It's an accumulation of efforts from allover the planet, there's why multiculturism works while single state with single race don't.
Nope most science is western and most of it's development was western . Try again 


Quote:But how to convince a savage of Gog and Magog with such a fact, even though right now he is using the accumulation of the Islamic algorithm. with the Indian zero, with the American internet to type these words?
Islam did not create algorithms and western thinkers improved the concept in every way.  the greeks had a placeholders for zero that would have worked just as well . So no you are still using western tech to bitch and moan . You didn't invent the computer nor would you ever have .

[Image: Laptop-computer.jpg]
You had no hand in this. Islam did invent   algorithms they stole it from the west . And could never have dreamed of a machine like this let alone build it . As for Zero the greeks already had a placeholder for zero so it wasn't needed and was more convenience then a necessity. So nope you get no credit and are a hypocrite for using western science .

Again, science is not a collection of stamps.   It is not a zero here or an algorithm there.    Insisting that science is no more than this, so as to not allow its genuinely unique power to actualLy determine Deeper facts and realities usurp Islam’s Accustomed dominance based on its bullshit claim to being able to do the same, is fundamentally why the world is Islam is Uniquely incapable of Even benefiting much from, much less lead in, the scientific revolution.   The world of islam is Much more so crippled than any of the other major non-western culture of the Old world. 

Science is single overarching philosophical concept, a intellectual scaffold, if you will, that allows facts whether discovered by west, or discovered elsewhere and verified by it, to stand Cohesively as a unified concept that truly mirrors reality, and yet more importantly allow the limited amount that is known to be limitlessly adaptable to discoveries yet to come.    This is what science is.    Not Zero here or an algorithm there.   What structural framework of science is, is all western.   Admittedly many of bricks incorproated into the lower levels of its facade was Partially or largely baked by other Cultures.    Yet without the framework Of western science those numerous impressive bricks would never be more than part of one of many separate shapeless pile, subject to grandiose ex post claims, but part of no durable or adaptable form of its own.

Science is the framework that allow them to stand Into a worthwhile overarching form, and be built upon to be yet more. 

Incidentally, that framework, once established, also vastly improved the efforts of those who sought to discover based on it.  So that’s why it Indians made little material progress with zero in 1700 years.   Arabs made little of algorithm in 1000 years.  Rockets and gun powder did win China wars or dawn a space age in the orient.  But 500 years after capernicus, 350 years after newton, the west landed on the moon, repair human genes on a fundamental level, saw 13.5 billion light years to within a sliver of true beginning, and predict the quantum mechanic underpinning of reality totally alien to any wishful intuition. 

West does not owe science any more than the west owns the sun.   But the difference between the west and Islam is the west lives under the sun, the world of Islam is wedded to darkness, pretending the sun is just a tiny variation on its esteemed darkness.
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#64
RE: With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
(August 23, 2020 at 10:40 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(August 23, 2020 at 9:52 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Nope the scientific revolution occured in the west and most sciences were founded and developed in the west . Zero could have easily been figured out or substituted . Islam did not invent algorithms and neither society utilized it to make the wests computers . So nice try .


Nope most science is western and most of it's development was western . Try again 


Islam did not create algorithms and western thinkers improved the concept in every way.  the greeks had a placeholders for zero that would have worked just as well . So no you are still using western tech to bitch and moan . You didn't invent the computer nor would you ever have .

[Image: Laptop-computer.jpg]
You had no hand in this. Islam did invent   algorithms they stole it from the west . And could never have dreamed of a machine like this let alone build it . As for Zero the greeks already had a placeholder for zero so it wasn't needed and was more convenience then a necessity. So nope you get no credit and are a hypocrite for using western science .

Again, science is not a collection of stamps.   It is not a zero here or an algorithm there.    Insisting that science is no more than this, so as to not allow its genuinely power to actualLy determine Deeper facts and realities usurp Islam’s Accustomed dominance based on its bullshit claim of being able to do the same, is fundamentally why the world is Islam is Uniquely incapable of scientific revolution, Much more so than Even other major non-western culture of the world. 

Science is single overriding philosophical concept, a intellectual scaffold, if you will, that allows facts whether discovered by west, or discovered elsewhere and verified by it, to stand Cohesively as a unified concept that truly mirrors reality, and yet more importantly allow the limited amount that is known to be limitlessly adaptable to discoveries yet to come.    This is what science is.    Not Zero here or an algorithm there.   What science is, is all western.   Many of what can fit as a facade around the framework that is science, no doubt Came from China, India, the maya, the Greeks, the romans.   But without science, they would just be a pile of ruined bricks of factoids and limited inventions. 

Science is the framework that allow them to stand and be built upon. 

Incidentally, that framework, once established, also vastly improved the efforts of those who sought to discover based on it.  So that’s why it Indians made little material progress with zero in 1700 years.   Arabs made little of algorithm in 1000 years.  The west landed on the moon 500 years after capernicus.

West does not owe science any more than the west owns the sun.   But the difference between the west and Islam is the west lives under the sun, the world of Islam is wedded to darkness, pretending the sun is just a tiny variation on its esteemed darkness.
Truth
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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#65
RE: With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
(August 23, 2020 at 5:54 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 80 years from the time of WW2. Only 80 years, and already you're seeing the sad aftermath of your policies and blind savage leading by the power of the rifle and the bomb.

Your western nations -or Gog and Magog- corrupted this planet and came bragging like savages with what all humans already have: minds. Nobody respected you but because they fear your brutality that you show in wars, killing the sons and daughters then rape the mothers of those who fight you.

80 years only, terrorist. That's the time since you detonated the atom bomb, 80 years only.
One bad plate of shrimp away from blowing yourself up, huh?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#66
RE: With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
(August 23, 2020 at 11:19 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(August 23, 2020 at 5:54 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 80 years from the time of WW2. Only 80 years, and already you're seeing the sad aftermath of your policies and blind savage leading by the power of the rifle and the bomb.

Your western nations -or Gog and Magog- corrupted this planet and came bragging like savages with what all humans already have: minds. Nobody respected you but because they fear your brutality that you show in wars, killing the sons and daughters then rape the mothers of those who fight you.

80 years only, terrorist. That's the time since you detonated the atom bomb, 80 years only.
One bad plate of shrimp away from blowing yourself up, huh?
He wouldn't have the balls . He's "fighting" is the way "keyboard warrior"
"Change was inevitable"


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#67
RE: With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
Meh, so simple that even a child can do it, and they do.

Yet another reason that people, no matter what fanciful wishes they might indulge in private time, have to deal with each other as though we lived in reality.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#68
RE: With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
Atlass:

Brags about (1000y old) scientific achievements of religion.
Also argues using religious myth to explain current global situation in the world . Jerkoff
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#69
RE: With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
(August 23, 2020 at 10:40 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Again, science is not a collection of stamps.   It is not a zero here or an algorithm there.    Insisting that science is no more than this, so as to not allow its genuinely unique power to actualLy determine Deeper facts and realities usurp Islam’s Accustomed dominance based on its bullshit claim to being able to do the same, is fundamentally why the world is Islam is Uniquely incapable of Even benefiting much from, much less lead in, the scientific revolution.   The world of islam is Much more so crippled than any of the other major non-western culture of the Old world. 

You totally ignored that all this world you're seeing today is the result of 80 years !
You totally ignored the examples I gave that western scientists used the Indian Zero; Islamic algorithm and more innovations from all around the world to rise from their hole.

Yet you fail to see that America became a super power because of collecting scientific stamps, setting an example that immigration of minds that carry different stamps of science can indeed accumulate to build a super power.

Let's see an example for the none-sense mixed messages you vomited in the reply above:

Quote:This is what science is.    Not Zero here or an algorithm there.   What structural framework of science is, is all western.   Admittedly many of bricks incorproated into the lower levels of its facade was Partially or largely baked by other Cultures.    Yet without the framework Of western science those numerous impressive bricks would never be more than part of one of many separate shapeless pile, subject to grandiose ex post claims, but part of no durable or adaptable form of its own.

Even though I gave an example with the Indian zero, then an example with the Islamic algorithm, then I give more examples here including fireworks from China.
Stamps as you can see; who collects them all builds a super power. That's why Gog and Magog nations learned since 80 years that immigration of minds to their lands build the future for their supremacy.

Quote:West does not owe science any more than the west owns the sun.   But the difference between the west and Islam is the west lives under the sun, the world of Islam is wedded to darkness, pretending the sun is just a tiny variation on its esteemed darkness.

Just say it ! why are you so shy? say it: the sun is western, the east is western, the west is western, but it rings a bell about the mad Gog and Magog who got so drunk on power, that they lost logic..

Soon. Just wait and remember my words very well.
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#70
RE: With UAE deal, Israel opens tentative new chapter with Gulf Arabs
(August 24, 2020 at 4:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(August 23, 2020 at 10:40 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Again, science is not a collection of stamps.   It is not a zero here or an algorithm there.    Insisting that science is no more than this, so as to not allow its genuinely unique power to actualLy determine Deeper facts and realities usurp Islam’s Accustomed dominance based on its bullshit claim to being able to do the same, is fundamentally why the world is Islam is Uniquely incapable of Even benefiting much from, much less lead in, the scientific revolution.   The world of islam is Much more so crippled than any of the other major non-western culture of the Old world. 

You totally ignored that all this world you're seeing today is the result of 80 years !
You totally ignored the examples I gave that western scientists used the Indian Zero; Islamic algorithm and more innovations from all around the world to rise from their hole.

Yet you fail to see that America became a super power because of collecting scientific stamps, setting an example that immigration of minds that carry different stamps of science can indeed accumulate to build a super power.

Let's see an example for the none-sense mixed messages you vomited in the reply above:

Quote:This is what science is.    Not Zero here or an algorithm there.   What structural framework of science is, is all western.   Admittedly many of bricks incorproated into the lower levels of its facade was Partially or largely baked by other Cultures.    Yet without the framework Of western science those numerous impressive bricks would never be more than part of one of many separate shapeless pile, subject to grandiose ex post claims, but part of no durable or adaptable form of its own.

Even though I gave an example with the Indian zero, then an example with the Islamic algorithm, then I give more examples here including fireworks from China.
Stamps as you can see; who collects them all builds a super power. That's why Gog and Magog nations learned since 80 years that immigration of minds to their lands build the future for their supremacy.

Quote:West does not owe science any more than the west owns the sun.   But the difference between the west and Islam is the west lives under the sun, the world of Islam is wedded to darkness, pretending the sun is just a tiny variation on its esteemed darkness.

Just say it ! why are you so shy? say it: the sun is western, the east is western, the west is western, but it rings a bell about the mad Gog and Magog who got so drunk on power, that they lost logic..

Soon. Just wait and remember my words very well.

You are a suppurating pustule on the collective taint of humanity.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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