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Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
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RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
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RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
(September 14, 2020 at 11:22 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: I'm going to be quick to the point: the things that seem to be of supreme importance to the Evangelicals were neither important to Jesus nor his father, Yahweh. Also, things that were important to Jesus do not seem to be important to the Evangelicals. 


Jesus never discussed the issue of abortion and the Old Testament makes it clear that abortion is not something that Yahweh disapproves of.

Exodus 21:22-25 Tells us that hitting a woman and causing her to miscarry (a natural abortion) is punishable with a fine while murder is punishable by death.

Numbers 5:13-31 Tells us what a husband should do if he suspects his wife is pregnant with another man's child. He should take her to the priest who will gather dust from the tabernacle and mix it with water. She must drink this concoction. If she miscarries, it means she was unfaithful. Now, I'm not a doctor and can't testify as to the health risks of a pregnant woman drinking dirt-water, if that actually could cause a miscarriage, but the message of these verses are clear. The priest is potentially performing a metaphysical abortion on her without her choice being involved.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 Makes it clear that even post-birth children have no rights. The father can have one stoned to death in the public square just by announcing that his son is rebellious.

The only verse the pro-lifers can manage to find is a passage in Jeremiah 1:5 which is wrenched out of context. "Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you" which speaks of Yahweh's ability to see into the future, that Jeremiah would be successfully born and grow up to be a prophet.

Do Evangelicals still fret anymore about marriage being between "one man and one woman" or have they come to finally accept gay marriage?
In case it's still an issue for them, "one man and one woman" appears nowhere in the Bible. In fact, the Old Testament is filled to the brim with examples of the prophets taking multiple wives, along with some "concubines" on the side. If Yahweh valued a strictly monogamous marriage, clearly his "chosen people" never got the memo.

1Kings 15:5 tells us that King David did not sin in the eyes of Yahweh except for the matter with Uriah and his wife. The number of wives that David has is never calculated in the Bible but it was more than several. Apparently, Yahweh had no problem with David having multiple wives. He also apparently had a gay relationship with Johnathan but that's a matter of interpretation.

Deuteronomy 21:15-17 tells us how to treat the children of multiple wives in case one is "beloved" and the other "hated". This is a divine regulation of the practice of polygamy. Such regulation is a tacit endorsement of the practice, since Yahweh could have just as easily written "don't do this".

Jesus never said anything about either abortion or gay rights. He did, however, spend a lot of time talking about the things that liberals like. He denounced greed. He instructed us to care for the poor and unfortunate. He healed the sick. He preached a message of peace.

In sum, the Evangelicals either need to reevaluate their priorities or find another religion. This Jesus they claim to follow was a socialist hippy.

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he did say anyone who harms a child, it will be better for them to never have been born than to harm a child and face God's judgement. so there is that. if you want to split hair with God on what a baby in utero is, that's between you and him. seems to me though if a child is identified as 'innocent' then a baby is that much more, but again it is not my judgement that will be used here. And Jesus does identify homosexuality as a sin. Jesus only appears to be a socialist hippy when you cut out everything he said against socialism and hippitude. he said submit to your government which at the time was a empire, and currently a capitalist constitutionalist based democracy. to pay tax, to be a soldier if that is your profession to be a slave if that is your profession ect. he said support the church, he said for those who do not work should not eat. he said teach a man to fish rather than provide him with one. do i need to go on? because we can get into finance, sex marriage, thoughts even all of it belonging to God and not to you as an indivisual or a community.
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RE: Evangelicals, Trump and a Quick Bible Study
(November 9, 2020 at 2:07 pm)Drich Wrote: [Image: 118122342_10217617701813635_250068653511...e=5F875472]
he did say anyone who harms a child, it will be better for them to never have been born than to harm a child and face God's judgement. so there is that. if you want to split hair with God on what a baby in utero is, that's between you and him. seems to me though if a child is identified as 'innocent' then a baby is that much more, but again it is not my judgement that will be used here.

How many "children" in the womb would god have killed when he flooded the world? (according to the Noah myth) how many pregnant women in Sodom or Gomorrah?
god seems pretty happy to kill absolutely everyone and everything if it so takes his fancy according to your book.

Quote: And Jesus does identify homosexuality as a sin.

Show me the quote were jesus says anything about same sex fumbling.

Quote: Jesus only appears to be a socialist hippy when you cut out everything he said against socialism and hippitude.
he said submit to your government which at the time was a empire, and currently a capitalist constitutionalist based democracy. to pay tax, to be a soldier if that is your profession to be a slave if that is your profession ect. he said support the church, he said for those who do not work should not eat. he said teach a man to fish rather than provide him with one. do i need to go on? because we can get into finance, sex marriage, thoughts even all of it belonging to God and not to you as an indivisual or a community.

So what you're saying is jesus was a shit.



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