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Damned Scientologists
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(October 12, 2020 at 6:06 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: According to this documentary, Scientologists are trying to play Hannibal Lecter, in that if you criticize them in public they send people who then talk you into killing yourself. Like they approach you in public and whisper in your ear: "Kill yourself." Or rent an apartment in your building and become a friendly neighbor who just happens to tell you to jump off the roof.

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I never did that - but I have talked a woman into a bit of self abuse.....

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#12
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(January 28, 2021 at 4:22 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I recently watched a couple episodes from the docuseries by Leah Remini about Scientology and just couldn't watch any more.  There were several interviews with people who were either born into it or were in it for a long time and the stuff they talked about was just so damn bizarre.  

I get that most religions are bizarre but this is some seriously whacked out stuff.  The way people were/are treated, the money they put into it, and the things they believe are impossible for me to comprehend.  I enjoy learning about cults but this one is just too much.

It's kinda insane;  the more you look at it, just calling it a cult seems inadequate, since it's also a combination of the ravings of a madman, a Ponzi Scheme that charges you 150k to tell you we're all just cavemen with dozens of alien ghosts fighting over us at any given moment, and the power trip of a dwarf with all the even-headedness, imagination, and ruthlessness of The Trunchbull, and this chimera is so fucking powerful it can engage in legal guerrilla warfare with the U.S. Government and win. And the fact that hundreds of celebrities get taken in by it just makes it all the more jaw-dropping.
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#13
RE: Damned Scientologists
(January 28, 2021 at 3:07 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(January 28, 2021 at 2:54 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Don't Scientologists see Christianity as something that evil Xenu implanted in people as an illusion to drive them away from the "awakening" that Scientology offers? So wouldn't Erika Christensen's starring in a Christian propaganda movie be equal to a catholic actress starring in a movie that praises Satan?
[...]. I don't know how far she's gone up The Bridge, but if she's one of the 90% who haven't reached OT3, she likely doesn't know better (bear in mind, the Co$ insists that converts must learn about their new doctrine only at the speed they're willing to spoon-feed it to them, a term they call Gradient) and the higher-ups won't punish her for it, or if she has, they're probably okay with allowing it because it reinforces the claim that Scientology is compatible with all other religions.

Or maybe, since she hasn't done much since, she's currently stuck in The Hole for violating Miscaviage's whims.

It seems that all I had to do was to Google my question because other people were asking this, and Tony Ortega gave an answer a few years ago when the movie came out, and it seems that my hunch how "money is more important than Scientology integrity" was on the right track, because she already passed OT3:

Quote:We’re starting to get questions from readers about Erika Christensen playing a Christian convert in the movie The Case for Christ, which opened in theaters Friday.

Well, whatever you think of the movie, what is a Scientologist doing in it playing a Christian convert? As Thompson points out in his review, it’s an “amusing” bit of casting to put in it an actress who belongs to a church that considers Jesus Christ a figment of the imagination.

And part of that material they have to focus on once they pass through what’s called OT 3 — which Christensen has completed — is to learn that L. Ron Hubbard, in his own handwriting, described Christianity and the other world’s religions as false information that had been implanted in our minds millions of years ago.

So if that’s the case, how does a Scientology actress get away with appearing in a film that’s obviously meant to promote Christianity?

Once again, we will point out something we have to repeat again and again to readers: Scientology Rule No. 1 is that its celebrities can break all the rules.

The church will be thrilled that Christensen is earning a paycheck, and it wouldn’t dare tell her not to appear in such a film. Meanwhile, as she has many times before, Christensen herself will say that generally, Scientologists can also be Christians or Jews or Muslims.

This. Is. A. Lie.

But lying is practically a sacrament in Scientology, so Erika won’t be in any trouble for it. [And lying isn't a sacrament in Christianity? Has he watched "Case for Christ" like when they say to the audience how all Jesus' apostles died for him - that was a big fat lie.]

https://tonyortega.org/2017/04/10/why-sc...ig-screen/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#14
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Mike Vogel as Lee Strobel? That's a considerable movie facelift.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#15
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Actor Danny Masterson Will Go to Trial Over 3 Charges of Rape And Judge Blames Scientology As A Reason Why They Didn't Report It

Los Angeles County Superior Country Judge Charlaine Olmedo determined Masterson would stand trial after the fourth day of a preliminary hearing that included testimonies from the three women who say that Masterson raped them in 2001 and 2003.

The judge said she found the women's explanations credible that church teachings kept them from reporting their accusations to police for years.

https://www.newsweek.com/actor-danny-mas...pe-1593836
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#16
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Russia Bans Church Of Scientology For Being Phony Religion

Christians are gloating at a religious persecution




And it's so ironic seeing Christians rationalize how Scientologists believe in nonsense.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#17
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Having been a recovering Catholic for over 50 years, I've never quite understood the fuss about Scientology. Ok, they're manipulative, and aggressive and believe in weird shit Ron Hubbard made up as he went along .

Honestly can't see how Scientology is any more mendacious and loopy than any of the Abrahamic religions. I won't even start on Hinduism. Scientology is very young. Give it 1000 years or so.

So far Scientology has been banned or refused tax free status in a goodly number of countries.

I really don't care about scientologists unless they get in my face. Then I tend to say some very unkind things. My wish is that all religions lose their tax exempt status and are not allowed to own property. I won't hold my breath
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#18
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How is it any more mendacious? Well, putting major parts of the doctrine behind a paywall of a minimum of $159,160 is a good place to start. Yes, that's how much money it costs to get to the Xenu story, and that's only if the Church doesn't decide you need to repeat a course of auditing. When the RCC puts the first couple chapters of Genesis behind a paywall that costs as much as a small house, or, for that matter, when the Pope decides to consign the College of Cardinals to an ant-infested double wide at the back of St. Peter's Cathedral, then you can say it's no more mendacious or loopy, but not before.
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#19
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More than a month ago there was the 25th anniversary of the renaming of North Berendo Street in Los Angeles to “L. Ron Hubbard Way.”

But only this week letters sent by members of the public to the city council were uncovered for the first time in which Scientologists encouraged them to rename the street.

Here's what some Scientology celebs wrote:

Quote:John Travolta:

As a Scientologist, I have studied Mr. Hubbard’s works for over twenty years and can say that without the guidance of his works I would not be where I am today. A great humanitarian and a brilliant writer, his works continue to have a profound effect on people the world over. The fact that Hubbard’s bestseller, Battlefield Earth, is being produced by MGM and a number of Hubbard’s other works are active at major studios, is further evidence of Hubbard’s widespread popularity. I hope my letter will assist in your decision to approve this measure as it means a great deal to me.


Quote:Anne Archer:

To put it simply the life works of L. Ron Hubbard saved my life. I can attest that the success I enjoy today both in my career, my marriage and my family, I can directly attribute to the knowledge, understanding and sanity I gained from Mr. Hubbard’s works. I would not be where I am today without it. I have spent many years working in communities around the country in the area of education and literacy.


Quote:Isaac Hayes:

For a man who has given so much to this planet, to name a street after him is a small gesture compared to the work he has done for mankind. I am just one amongst millions who consider L. Ron Hubbard the greatest friend man has ever had. 

https://tonyortega.org/2022/05/15/letter...y-council/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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