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Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
#51
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
(March 17, 2021 at 10:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: At any rate..I agree that some convoluted way of thinking is what pantheism genuinely entails..but, pantheism in practice - in my experience and in this thread.  It's just atheism.  Our friend pantheist friend in this thread..an atheist - for example.

I am not an atheist.
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#52
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
That's not what you told us. Were you lying?

OMG, so surprising, absolutely no one saw it coming. It's never happened before on these boards.......
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#53
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
(March 18, 2021 at 10:04 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's not what you told us.  Were you lying?

OMG, so surprising, absolutely no one saw it coming.  It's never happened before on these boards.......

Subtly & nuance really aren't your strong point, are they?
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#54
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
Not really, no..to be honest - but I'm a pretty straightforward guy. When some nutbar tells us that he doesn't believe in a personal god with a shitlist


......i think...me neither.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#55
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
I've actually always enjoyed The Grand Nudger's grasp of nuance and subtlety. He asks the right questions.

He does get in a mode where he is too dismissive, sometimes. So he ain't perfect. But I do wonder if he's on to something concerning Seax's level of honesty.
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#56
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
I'm very dismissive, it's true. It's a flaw, but an honest flaw.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#57
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
(March 19, 2021 at 1:19 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: I've actually always enjoyed The Grand Nudger's grasp of nuance and subtlety. He asks the right questions.

He does get in a mode where he is too dismissive, sometimes. So he ain't perfect. But I do wonder if he's on to something concerning Seax's level of honesty.

His very first post on this forum says that atheism is incoherent, and declares what the will of God is.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-62465-p...pid2026226
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#58
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
It would be difficult to get that one more wrong than you have. Seax doesnt believe in gods, but don't take my word for it..ask him.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#59
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
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#60
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
(March 21, 2021 at 7:45 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: I would say that modern science has it’s roots somewhere in the 1700s.

Why is that? What changed?

Why would you discount the efforts of all the people before that who did successful and important science?
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