Attempt Murder for Jodie, get a Youtube channel.

[arewethereyet]

This thread is just another one of Brian37s threads bitching about "rich" people.

I suppose it was either this, shitty music, 80s TV/films, or being bullied...whoopdefuckingdoo.

[Rev. Rye]

Just for the record, I checked Wikipedia's page on attempted presidential assassinations, and while I don't have the time to catalogue every single one by their time served from arrest to release, I will do so for those who served more than 10,000 days (not counting foreign nationals tried by their own countries):

• 12,962 days: Arthur Bremer (George Wallace, 1972, released from prison)
  
• 12,948 Days: John Hinckley Jr. (Ronald Reagan, 1981, released from mental hospital, actually wounded Reagan)
  
• 12,429 days: Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme (Gerald Ford, 1975, made  parole)
  
• 11,789 days: Sara Jane Moore (Gerald Ford, 1975, made parole)
  
• 11,294 days: John Flemming Shrank (Theodore Roosevelt, 1912, died in prison, actually wounded Roosevelt)
  
• 10,537 days: Oscar Collazo (Harry Truman, 1950, Jimmy Carter commuted his sentence to time served)
  

And, of course, there's more than six listed there, and not all of them killed themselves before they could be arrested.

Also of note: Francisco Martin Duran fired 29 shots at what he thought was Bill Clinton in 1994. He was tackled and the threat neutralised before he could actuall hit anyone. He was sentenced to 40 years. If he serves the full sentence, it'll be the longest one served by an attempted presidential assassin.  Despite all the furor about how Hinckley cheated justice by pleading insanity, his time in the House of Bedlam made him a very narrow second place in terms of time served. And if St. Elizabeth's Hospital had just waited until the end of September 2016 to release Hinckley, it would have broken Bremer's record. And in terms of people who actually hit a sitting President or attempted to do so (though Bremer tried to shoot Nixon about a month prior to Wallace, his plans were foiled and he ran away before he could be arrested for shooting another candidate), he wins hands down.

You could argue that he shouldn't have been released at all, and I could point out that he's still served more time than anyone else, and you could still say it should have been more, and I do not want to have to turn this into a 20GOTO10 of "Things Should Be Like This/But They're Not/But They Should/But They're Not."

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Just for the record, I checked Wikipedia's page on attempted presidential assassinations, and while I don't have the time to catalogue every single one by their time served from arrest to release, I will do so for those who served more than 10,000 days (not counting foreign nationals tried by their own countries):

• 12,962 days: Arthur Bremer (George Wallace, 1972, released from prison)
  
• 12,948 Days: John Hinckley Jr. (Ronald Reagan, 1981, released from mental hospital, actually wounded Reagan)
  
• 12,429 days: Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme (Gerald Ford, 1975, made  parole)
  
• 11,789 days: Sara Jane Moore (Gerald Ford, 1975, made parole)
  
• 11,294 days: John Flemming Shrank (Theodore Roosevelt, 1912, died in prison, actually wounded Roosevelt)
  
• 10,537 days: Oscar Collazo (Harry Truman, 1950, Jimmy Carter commuted his sentence to time served)
  

And, of course, there's more than six listed there, and not all of them killed themselves before they could be arrested.

Also of note: Francisco Martin Duran fired 29 shots at what he thought was Bill Clinton in 1994. He was tackled and the threat neutralised before he could actuall hit anyone. He was sentenced to 40 years. If he serves the full sentence, it'll be the longest one served by an attempted presidential assassin.  Despite all the furor about how Hinckley cheated justice by pleading insanity, his time in the House of Bedlam made him a very narrow second place in terms of time served. And if St. Elizabeth's Hospital had just waited until the end of September 2016 to release Hinckley, it would have broken Bremer's record. And in terms of people who actually hit a sitting President or attempted to do so (though Bremer tried to shoot Nixon about a month prior to Wallace, his plans were foiled and he ran away before he could be arrested for shooting another candidate), he wins hands down.

You could argue that he shouldn't have been released at all, and I could point out that he's still served more time than anyone else, and you could still say it should have been more, and I do not want to have to turn this into a 20GOTO10 of "Things Should Be Like This/But They're Not/But They Should/But They're Not."

It's not really about whether people who attempt to assassinate statesmen should be punished - I think we can all agree that they should. My issue is that 37 seems to think that Hinckley, who is no longer in custody or under care, should continue to be punished. A man found not guilty and who - according to doctors on BOTH sides - is no longer a danger to other people should not be allowed to post crappy videos on YouTube.

Boru

[arewethereyet]

Just for the record, I checked Wikipedia's page on attempted presidential assassinations, and while I don't have the time to catalogue every single one by their time served from arrest to release, I will do so for those who served more than 10,000 days (not counting foreign nationals tried by their own countries):

• 12,962 days: Arthur Bremer (George Wallace, 1972, released from prison)
  
• 12,948 Days: John Hinckley Jr. (Ronald Reagan, 1981, released from mental hospital, actually wounded Reagan)
  
• 12,429 days: Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme (Gerald Ford, 1975, made  parole)
  
• 11,789 days: Sara Jane Moore (Gerald Ford, 1975, made parole)
  
• 11,294 days: John Flemming Shrank (Theodore Roosevelt, 1912, died in prison, actually wounded Roosevelt)
  
• 10,537 days: Oscar Collazo (Harry Truman, 1950, Jimmy Carter commuted his sentence to time served)
  

And, of course, there's more than six listed there, and not all of them killed themselves before they could be arrested.

Also of note: Francisco Martin Duran fired 29 shots at what he thought was Bill Clinton in 1994. He was tackled and the threat neutralised before he could actuall hit anyone. He was sentenced to 40 years. If he serves the full sentence, it'll be the longest one served by an attempted presidential assassin.  Despite all the furor about how Hinckley cheated justice by pleading insanity, his time in the House of Bedlam made him a very narrow second place in terms of time served. And if St. Elizabeth's Hospital had just waited until the end of September 2016 to release Hinckley, it would have broken Bremer's record. And in terms of people who actually hit a sitting President or attempted to do so (though Bremer tried to shoot Nixon about a month prior to Wallace, his plans were foiled and he ran away before he could be arrested for shooting another candidate), he wins hands down.

You could argue that he shouldn't have been released at all, and I could point out that he's still served more time than anyone else, and you could still say it should have been more, and I do not want to have to turn this into a 20GOTO10 of "Things Should Be Like This/But They're Not/But They Should/But They're Not."

It's not really about whether people who attempt to assassinate statesmen should be punished - I think we can all agree that they should. My issue is that 37 seems to think that Hinckley, who is no longer in custody or under care, should continue to be punished. A man found not guilty and who - according to doctors on BOTH sides - is no longer a danger to other people should not be allowed to post crappy videos on YouTube.

Boru

And he got off "easy" 'cause his family is rich...according to the Irrational One.