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So...Catholics stole my family.
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RE: So...Catholics stole my family.
(March 11, 2011 at 7:41 am)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Make use of their beliefs if you cannot refute them. Resource available: exploit. It isn't as if anyone will be hurt by it in this instance?

Good point, now i'll just let my older brother do the work. While I sit and hope that my family will become sane again. I really miss their normalness. Sad

None of this wouldn't happen if it weren't for that old nutcase who started all this doomsday crap.
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#12
RE: So...Catholics stole my family.
Catholicism is very rigid in it's structure.. easily breakable. Discipline is strict and fast. If you think they're only doing it out of fear.. they'll definately not hold onto that religion forever. I've found that Any flavor of Christianity, when indoctrinated through fear of hell or promise of reward 9/10 times misses the mark and makes for a horrible (and usually short lived) Christian experience.
Play for them death cab 4 cutie's "I will follow you into the dark" Fear is definately not the heart of Love, but in Catholicism.. it's almost 100% the first step because some miscnstrued Biblical verses. You simply can't reconcile teaching to Fear God with God is Love and in Love there is no fear scriptures.

Perhaps go to her with "questions" and then use simple logic and reason and maybe one or 2 scriptures to make her see she's pushing fear and hatred onto others adn that's not a good evangellical way to bring people to salvation.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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#13
RE: So...Catholics stole my family.
Alright, I think I managed to get some of their minds back.
I think I told them to read Matthew 24:36? Well, something like that. They are just extremely worried about the world ending, because they are mainly afraid of loving their lives and possible family members.
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RE: So...Catholics stole my family.
(March 11, 2011 at 10:40 pm)Jax Wrote: Alright, I think I managed to get some of their minds back.
I think I told them to read Matthew 24:36? Well, something like that. They are just extremely worried about the world ending, because they are mainly afraid of loving their lives and possible family members.

Show them all of the other failed doomsdays prophecies. Just wondering, what date did your moronic aunty say the word was going to end?
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#15
RE: So...Catholics stole my family.
If someone tells them the world is going to end on a certain day (good example is some has probably told someone that on the 19th the supermoon will cause a huge volcanic eruption signaling the EoW) then that you be the appropriate chapter to quote (vs. 23 wouldn't be so bad either) It's also in Mark 13 (I think around vs. 13.. really busy or I'd look it up)
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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RE: So...Catholics stole my family.
(March 12, 2011 at 3:24 am)Emporion Wrote:
(March 11, 2011 at 10:40 pm)Jax Wrote: Alright, I think I managed to get some of their minds back.
I think I told them to read Matthew 24:36? Well, something like that. They are just extremely worried about the world ending, because they are mainly afraid of loving their lives and possible family members.

Show them all of the other failed doomsdays prophecies. Just wondering, what date did your moronic aunty say the word was going to end?

May 21 2011, the so called rapture. By the infamous blockhead harold camping. He doesn't deserve a capital letter for his name.

I don't get it, from what I've heard from other Christians, some say the rapture is not real at all. It was all made up by this woman called Magaret Mcdonalds. If that was true, why would Christians say the rapture is real?

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RE: So...Catholics stole my family.
The rapture is clearly a biblical even as referenced in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 . I belive most catholics are Amillennialists where the general non-denominational specific teachings (while highly subjective by congregations) are typically based on postmillennialism. It's not whether Christianity feels it's real or unreal, just figurative or literal and whether a timeline is able to be established.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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RE: So...Catholics stole my family.
(March 12, 2011 at 5:56 am)Jax Wrote:
(March 12, 2011 at 3:24 am)Emporion Wrote: Show them all of the other failed doomsdays prophecies. Just wondering, what date did your moronic aunty say the word was going to end?

May 21 2011, the so called rapture. By the infamous blockhead harold camping. He doesn't deserve a capital letter for his name.

May 21, 2011 sounds familiar......oh yeah, I read it from some delusioned idiot on the Internet.

I have an idea. Tell your parents that if the world doesn't end on May 21, your family should celebrate surviving doomsday the next day, May 22. Don't invite aunty, because she might get a chance to come up with another doomsday date during the celebration.
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#19
RE: So...Catholics stole my family.
(March 12, 2011 at 12:34 pm)Emporion Wrote:
(March 12, 2011 at 5:56 am)Jax Wrote:
(March 12, 2011 at 3:24 am)Emporion Wrote: Show them all of the other failed doomsdays prophecies. Just wondering, what date did your moronic aunty say the word was going to end?

May 21 2011, the so called rapture. By the infamous blockhead harold camping. He doesn't deserve a capital letter for his name.

May 21, 2011 sounds familiar......oh yeah, I read it from some delusioned idiot on the Internet.

I have an idea. Tell your parents that if the world doesn't end on May 21, your family should celebrate surviving doomsday the next day, May 22. Don't invite aunty, because she might get a chance to come up with another doomsday date during the celebration.

As stubborn as this sound, I do not wish to celebrate something which I doubt will happen.
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#20
RE: So...Catholics stole my family.
What about this:

"For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy."

1 Corinthians 7:14 , NIV

Dunno about Catholics, there are twice as many interpretations of the bible as there are believers in it.

But it seems to me that there is no reason to kick someone out just because they don't believe. Especially when it appears that children of believers get a pass.

Or this:

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Matthew 24:36, supposedly said by Jesus himself.

Does the doomsayer know better than Jesus?

Unfortunately, I am not sure how much this will help.

Belief that is not gained from logic cannot be refuted by facts.
"People need heroes. They don't need to know how he died clawing his eyes out, screaming for mercy. The real story would just hurt sales, and dampen the spirits of our customers." - Mythology for Profit
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